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30-01-2010, 03:26 PM
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| | | Tremella mesenterica
 
The attached two photos were taken at the same site. I photographed the Tremella mesenterica on 28/11/09 and on 21/01/10 found the white fungi growing on the dried dead remains of Tremella mesenterica. Can any help is this just a new growth or a different species.
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30-01-2010, 03:53 PM
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| | | Re: Tremella mesenterica
The presence of Stereum hirsutum indicates that the species in the first photo is Tremella aurantia. As there is known to be a washed out version of T. mesenterica (parasitic on Peniophora as opposed to Stereum) previously called T. lutescens but now synonymous, I presume there is every probability that there can also be a washed out version of T. aurantia, which may be represented in the second image.)
David
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30-01-2010, 06:19 PM
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| | | Re: Tremella mesenterica
Thankyou very much David
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31-01-2010, 05:40 PM
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| | | Re: Tremella mesenterica
As your photo clearly demonstrates the parasitic asssociation between T. aurantia and Stereum hirsutum , characteristically differentiating it from T. mesenterica, I hope you are happy to have it included in the A to Z entry for this species: http://www.wildaboutbritain.co.uk/tremella-aurantia
Quite often the confusion arises because especially in the case of T. mesenterica there is little or no evidence remaining of the parasitized host species.
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David
Last edited by cybershot; 31-01-2010 at 05:47 PM.
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01-02-2010, 07:07 AM
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| | | Re: Tremella mesenterica
Off course you may use the photos.
Thanks again
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Gordon |
28-10-2010, 06:23 PM
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| | | Strangler Toadstool
Lound 24 October 2010
This fungus was found on scrubland on very sandy soil. 
Nick L kindly had a look at my image and commented as follows.
.......is something very rarely seen - one of two things - it's probably Squamanita paradoxa which is a wierd parasite of Cystoderma amianthinum where the upper parts of the Cystoderma (the pileus and about two thirds of the stipe) are replaced by the similar structures of the Squamanita !! There are only 25 records on FRDBI !
However, if it smelt strongly aromatic / or 'burnt sugar'-like, resembling Hebeloma sacchariolens or Entoloma pleopodium it would make it Squamanita odorata (also a parasite but probably on a species of Hebeloma) which would be the first British collection. But I think Les might have notice the smell had it been present ? You also need to check microscopically to see if there are lots of rounded chlamydospores on the surface of the bulbous basal parts. Or send it to Kew and let them do the work !!!!
Unfortunately, as my good fried John was having a day off, if did not get collected. 
Les
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28-10-2010, 06:49 PM
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| | | Re: Strangler Toadstool
What a wonderful find!
Clearly Squamanita but I can't see any obvious remains of Cystoderma amianthinum at the base of the stem. In all the images I have seen you can usually see a yellow Cystoderma-like stem. I'd be thinking S. pearsonii (syn. S. odorata) but, as you are aware, without a proper examination it would be difficult to get a positive determination of such an unusual find.
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28-10-2010, 07:03 PM
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| | | Re: Strangler Toadstool
I take two days off in 5 years and look what happens  
We are going back this weekend and won't return until we find another  
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28-10-2010, 09:50 PM
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Squamanita, one of my most sought after genuses! I've discussed these wonderful things with Karl Soop. I'm so jealous! Well done!!! |
09-11-2010, 11:31 AM
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| | | Re: Strangler Toadstool
Hi all
Just to update ...
We have finally recovered the remains of the Squamanita species and I'm sending it off to Kew.
In the area were many small groups of Hebeloma mesophaeum which would point to possibly Squamanita odorata  Certainly, no Cystoderma were found! 
Interesting too is that Hebeloma mesophaeum is normally found under pines and not Willow / Birch!
Hopefully a new British record
John and les | | | |
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