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Old 28-11-2011, 04:16 PM
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Question pink tiny mycena plus 2

Hi,
three from today that have me lost for which eternally grateful for help/steer!
All from damp mossy deciduous (sycamore/ash) area with lots of rotting balsam and hogweed etc.
First, on hogweed stem, so tiny, cap 2 - 3 mm, this looks like a mycena, pinkish cap with fibrils, pure white stipe, gills same colour as cap, no obvious edge colour, no clear smell and not bleeding (although only broken later when then drooping at home) Looks to have dark brownish spores.
I cant find it, nor in Mycena lookalikes, coud it be M adonis or rosella, even though not pine wood?

Then this flattish white disc on twig, older one shows darker with felty cap/top, no stem.

And, 3, quite a bit of white growth on edges of damp herbage, fern/bracken in this case, just at the frond edge, a white mass, again quite small, not bird poo, there was lots of it about the place, all at the edges. A slime?
Sorry for pics, it was windy, but no clear features anyway.

All 3 unknown to me before, so any help appreciated.
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Old 28-11-2011, 04:59 PM
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Re: pink tiny mycena plus 2

The photos of the first are so good you can see the (dark) spores so not a Mycena.
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Re: pink tiny mycena plus 2

ahhhhh, yes, oops, I forgot, thanks for being gentle Mal.
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Re: pink tiny mycena plus 2

1st - Marasmius/Marasmiellus then? Vaillantii?
Anyone else?
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Re: pink tiny mycena plus 2

Just a quick, er, update - the white blobs on fern fronds were in many places today - they are some sort of insect/larval cocoon type cases it seems. Apologies!
Still no takers for the interesting pink and white tiny?
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One final chance now its weekend with more online perhaps for the pinky one? .........then I'll give up!
I cant find anything online that seems right.
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Re: pink tiny mycena plus 2

Hello Ken,

I think the first one is a Psathyrella species. May be something like Psathyrella typhae, but I don't know that this one would occure on other substrates then stemes of Cyperaceae.
But as you can see the veil well developped (the tiny fruitbody in the first pictures shows it well) and the occurence on herbaceouse stems leaves not much other choice in my opinion.

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Re: pink tiny mycena plus 2

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One final chance now its weekend with more online perhaps for the pinky one? .........then I'll give up!
I cant find anything online that seems right.
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there is only one Yorkshire record of P. typhae, and even if not from the county, it is scarce nationally: NBN Gateway: Psathyrella typhae grid map

and if not typhae it might be even more interesting - please tell me you collected and have the material, Ken . . . .

it's always worth collecting anything that appears unusual (except perhaps cocoons on ferns)

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there is only one Yorkshire record of P. typhae, and even if not from the county, it is scarce nationally: NBN Gateway: Psathyrella typhae grid map

and if not typhae it might be even more interesting - please tell me you collected and have the material, Ken . . . .

it's always worth collecting anything that appears unusual (except perhaps cocoons on ferns)

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Firstly, Andreas, thanks a lot, I was hoping you would be about and have an idea............
It was in Yorks Chris - gosh, there arent many if thats it are there!
I do still have it, including the stem it was on, it is a bit wet, it got mixed up with some slimes I was working on.
Its a bit worse for wear,but even so, let me know if you want it - that ID suggestion does seem quite close - I would never have found it.
This extract might be of use from Mycology in Canada?
'' Psathyrella typhae (Kalchbr.) A. Pearson & Dennis cat-tail Psathyrella

The unusual habitat on cat-tails and sedge is the most notable feature. CAP 0.5-2 cm across, convex, becoming nearly flat; hygrophanous, dark to pale rusty brown, fading to pale buff; at first with thin patches of pale fibrils, soon bald, striate when moist, somewhat pleated; flesh, thin, fragile, watery. GILLS attached by narrow tooth or nearly free, subdistant to moderately close, broad; whitish at first, soon pale brown, finally with a purplish brown tinge. STEM 1-2cm x 0.1-0.15cm , weak, watery, fragile, base slightly enlarged; colorless; covered by scattered fibrils or with a denser fibrillose zone toward the base which is delicately mycelioid at attachment. ODOR and TASTE not distinctive. FRUITING gregarious on dead leaves and stems of Typha (cat-tail), Carex (sedge), or Phragmites (reed), often fruiting near the waterline, late spring and summer. MICROSTRUCTURES spores 10-12 x 5-6.5 um, elliptic, smooth, apical pore not evident because of thin wall; basidia 4-spored; pleurocystidia absent, cheilocystidia 30-47 x 8-15 um, subcylindric to ventricose, with the neck only slightly narrowed and the apex broadly rounded, colorless in KOH, thin-walled; caulocystidia abundant and more or less similar to cheilocystidia; clamp connections present.''

Interestingly, it was in a very damp, normally dark environment, buried in rotting stems, about 3 or 4'' below the surface of the vegetation, so similar habitat to the normal wet sedge it found on etc. Pure fluke whilst looking for rotting stem stuff.
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Re: pink tiny mycena plus 2

Hello Ken,

that the biotop suites well is nice, but no surprise. I don't think that one finds gilled fungi on herbaceous stems in other then in damp places

Here is a foto of P. typhae in an older stage. Unfortunately one can not see below for to see if the gills are that distant as in your foto. Anyeay I'm not convinced that it is P. typhae, but may be a related species. But for the moment we are not even sure whether it is a Psathyrella, are we?



Did anyone commend on picture 2 already? Didn't see a note. I think this is a scleortium of a Typhula (quisquilaris probably).

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