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04-11-2011, 05:31 PM
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| |  Conocybe?
Hi all,
without microscopy to nail properly to spp level, am I close with C rugosa with this please?
Today, in plantpot, ex sweet peppers, small, under 1'' cap, trooping, brown spores it looks like, cream ring clearly seen and stem very fibrillose above and below, no appreciable smell.   
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Ken
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04-11-2011, 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by diggleken  Hi all,
without microscopy to nail properly to spp level, am I close with C rugosa with this please?
Today, in plantpot, ex sweet peppers, small, under 1'' cap, trooping, brown spores it looks like, cream ring clearly seen and stem very fibrillose above and below, no appreciable smell.
Cheers
Ken | hi Ken - I don't see anything rugose about the cap to be honest - though the cap of Pholiotina rugosa isn't always rugose and other species in the vexans group can sometimes be so . . . . unfortunately "without microscopy" is an impossible wish here - plus you had best have access to Hausknecht's monograph, part 11 in the Fungi Europaei series: NHBS - FUNGI EUROPAEI
only £120 pounds to you . . . . though tbf you are getting 2 genera there, so at £60 per genus it would seem a snip 
cheers
Chris
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04-11-2011, 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Chris Yeates Hausknecht's monograph, part 11 in the Fungi Europaei series: NHBS - FUNGI EUROPAEI
only £120 pounds to you . . . . though tbf you are getting 2 genera there, so at £60 per genus it would seem a snip
cheers
Chris | Much cheaper from Andreas, even with postage. 
Ken |
04-11-2011, 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Ken Burgess Much cheaper from Andreas, even with postage.
Ken | quite so - I was being a bit provocative there (not like me at all ); I sometimes wonder how NHBS get any sales at all . . .
C
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04-11-2011, 09:56 PM
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Yes, its a wonder that National HIV Behavioral Surveillance sell anything........ 
Ta chaps, another bites the dust, hey ho.
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05-11-2011, 06:32 PM
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For that money you could get a brand new microscope like the one that I use ... (though the mechanical stage would set you back a further £35 and Funga Nordica a further wodge of notes.) But that combination would mean that Conocybe id would be a doddle .... and plenty of other genera too.
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05-11-2011, 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by SheffieldLass For that money you could get a brand new microscope like the one that I use ... (though the mechanical stage would set you back a further £35 and Funga Nordica a further wodge of notes.) But that combination would mean that Conocybe id would be a doddle .... and plenty of other genera too.
Melanie | a doddle? is it ever? I take your point, but there is a teency bit of difference between FN which has 19 pages for Conocybe and 7 pages for Pholiotina and the 968 pages of Hausknecht's monograph . . .
for P. rugosa the latter has 3 pages of information - Funga Nordica has 8 and a bit lines (and no illustrations of micro-structures)
Chris
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05-11-2011, 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Chris Yeates a doddle? is it ever? I take your point, but there is a teency bit of difference between FN which has 19 pages for Conocybe and 7 pages for Pholiotina and the 968 pages of Hausknecht's monograph . . .
for P. rugosa the latter has 3 pages of information - Funga Nordica has 8 and a bit lines (and no illustrations of micro-structures)
Chris | Well, one could add FAN6 in the paperback version with 84 pages on Conocybe and Pholiotina, and get as an added bonus 116 pages covering Coprinus (pre the splitting into Coprinellus etc), Bolbitius and Agrocybe ...
Melanie
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05-11-2011, 09:42 PM
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Though I haven't checked to see what price NHBC are selling it for these days ...[/quote]
This is very confusing, cant find these fungi books for sale on the National House Building Council website.........................
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06-11-2011, 12:08 AM
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Originally Posted by SheffieldLass Well, one could add FAN6 in the paperback version with 84 pages on Conocybe and Pholiotina, and get as an added bonus 116 pages covering Coprinus (pre the splitting into Coprinellus etc), Bolbitius and Agrocybe ...
Melanie | quite true and it has to be added that Hausknecht (as co-author with the sadly-missed Jan Vesterholt in the case of Funga Nordica) and in correspondence with Eef Arnolds in the case of FAN6, did have a big contribution to make with both those works
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