Two fungi for ID Help Please

[Lancashire Lad]

No.1
Found yesterday:-
Caps to approx 2mm in diameter, stipes to approx 10mm tall. Gills widely spaced, free.
On first spotting these, my initial thoughts were Mycena adscendens.
But although there were good numbers of these about, every one was growing on empty, decaying Beechmast husks. None were to be found growing on any other form of woody debris.
Also, they don't look as white as M.adscendens previously seen.
So, I'm wondering - are they within the range of variability that might be expected of M.adscendens, or something else completely.
Unfortunately I didn't have any collecting pots with me, and the two that I put in the camera bag were mashed beyond recognition before I got them home, so no chance of microscopy.


No.2
Going on a hunch with this one.
A good amount of this was found on a NWFG foray today, growing high up on a standing Fagus trunk.
No-one could suggest anything at the time, (the sample was subsequently taken away for microscopical examination).
I'm thinking it has the look of Phlebia tremellosa, one which I haven't seen previously, but having got that seed in my mind, and now having had chance to get the images onto computer, it does seem to match quite well with many P.tremellosa images on the web.


Any confirmations, other suggestions much appreciated.

Regards,
Mike.

[fairplay]

Second looks good for P.tremellosa, but can't tell you much more for the first.

Neil.

[Lancashire Lad]

Originally Posted by fairplay

Second looks good for P.tremellosa, but can't tell you much more for the first. Neil.

Cheers Neil - Good to have an affirmative opinion.

Hopefully someone can suggest something on the first one in due course.

Regards,
Mike.

[diggleken]

Hi Mike,
I thought Phlebia radiata, but tremellosa better.............
1st, I'll keep thinking.................
mmmmhhh
Cheers
Ken

[FungiJohn]

Hi Mike

I would suggest Marasmius for the first.

I seem to remember a similar thread but can't yet find it

John

PS It's by our good friend goosey (Shirley) on our sister site!

http://www.wildabouttheworld.com/gal...php/photo/8977

[diggleken]

Not a good area for me, but arent most Marasmius brownish stem, or at least the base? Err, dont shoot me.
Was this on the NWFG Accrington foray Mike?
I have a short note about Mycena, listing some characteristics, just from that, any chance of M. Capillaris as its on beech substrate?
Cheers
Ken

[stickman]

Hi Mike

The first is Flammulaster carpophilus, a species I am quite familiar with. You can (just) see granulose veil remnants on the caps and stems which would, I think, rule out Mycena, Marasmius and probably some others.

Cheers, Nick

[Ken Burgess]

Originally Posted by Lancashire Lad

On first spotting these, my initial thoughts were Mycena adscendens.
But although there were good numbers of these about, every one was growing on empty, decaying Beechmast husks. None were to be found growing on any other form of woody debris.
Also, they don't look as white as M.adscendens previously seen.
So, I'm wondering - are they within the range of variability that might be expected of M.adscendens, or something else completely.
Unfortunately I didn't have any collecting pots with me, and the two that I put in the camera bag were mashed beyond recognition before I got them home, so no chance of microscopy.

I don't think these would have had white spores, so that would rule out both Mycena and Marasmius. I think they are much more likely to be something like Flammulaster carpophilus.

Ken

[Lancashire Lad]

Originally Posted by diggleken

....Was this on the NWFG Accrington foray Mike?
...

Hi Ken,
The suspected P.tremella was from today's Accrington foray, but the Beechmast fungi were from Sunnyhurst Woods yesterday.

In another area of the woods, there were others with similar sized (but whiter) caps growing directly from Beech leaf litter - but with stipes considerably (2-3 times) longer, thinner and somewhat contorted.- (Which I was certain were a different species). - I'd tentatively put the name M.capillaris to those, but I'm pretty sure that these on the Beechmast aren't M.capillaris.

John,
I did (and still do) think that a Marasmius might also be a possibility. But these don't seem to look the same as the particular one in Shirley's photo.

Probably one that will join the many others in the unidentified file.

Regards,
Mike.

[Ken Burgess]

Sometimes you just can't keep up with the posts that are being typed while you are busy typing yourself.

Ken