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24-09-2011, 07:27 PM
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| | | very distinctive fungus for id please
Hi. Can anyone id this one for me please. When I saw a couple of groups of these yesterday I though I had a good idea what is was and at least would have no trouble id'ing it if I was wrong.
Hours later I now have no idea.
Found growing IN MOSS on a grass bank. NO TREES in the near vacinity. This has ruled out most of my ideas.
Most of the characteristics are obvious from the photo's. Cap powdery light brown. Gills white and crowded. stipe belted. flaked below and light brown above ring. Spores white. flesh white. Amonia or bleech odour when cut.   
This has turned out to be a troublesome beggar all help gratefully recieved.
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24-09-2011, 08:52 PM
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These are Cystoderma amianthinum  |
24-09-2011, 09:02 PM
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Many thanks Nick.
Regards tn.
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24-09-2011, 10:20 PM
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| | | Re: very distinctive fungus for id please
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Originally Posted by NickCantle  These are Cystoderma amianthinum | so definitely not Cystoderma jasonis then, Nick 
see: http://www.hlasek.com/foto/cystoderm...nis_bi6840.jpg
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24-09-2011, 10:53 PM
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Pfft! I thought C. jasonis had purple hues in the stipe?  |
25-09-2011, 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by NickCantle Pfft! I thought C. jasonis had purple hues in the stipe? | Pfft! (?) no need for language like that  gill colour is a guide (bit over-exposed here), and yes, jasonis tends to be darker (but the more I do this mycology lark the less reliance I put on colour . . . . ) - best way to be sure is spore size and presence or absence of arthroconidia in the context under the pileipellis
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25-09-2011, 04:20 PM
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| | | Re: very distinctive fungus for id please
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Originally Posted by Chris Yeates Pfft! (?) no need for language like that gill colour is a guide (bit over-exposed here), and yes, jasonis tends to be darker (but the more I do this mycology lark the less reliance I put on colour . . . . ) - best way to be sure is spore size and presence or absence of arthroconidia in the context under the pileipellis
Chris | I would expect this one to be C amianthinum rather than C jasonis because of the gill colour in particular, as all the C jasonis I have come across have been quite noticeably yellow, and have had a different jizz. All of the C jasonis I've found have been in woodland (wooded former heathland), or the few found in grassland/heath have actually been under trees. Anyone else noticed this? There is some overlap of habitat though.
But the sure-fire way is the presence/absence of those arthroconidia.
Some Cystoderma jasonis  
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25-09-2011, 04:53 PM
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Any chance of a photo of these arthroconidia to give us an idea what we mere mortals are looking for? Maybe someone could pop a definition in the WAB glossary too... |
25-09-2011, 10:19 PM
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The pfft! was very light hearted Chris, never would I say anything like that if it weren't in jest |
25-09-2011, 10:50 PM
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Originally Posted by BROCSMAN Any chance of a photo of these arthroconidia to give us an idea what we mere mortals are looking for? Maybe someone could pop a definition in the WAB glossary too... | From wikipedia (where else ) Arthroconidium - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
One of my micro photos of the scalp of Cystoderma jasonis: 
And an earlier discussion on WAB where I was talking to myself ... Cystoderma - arthroconidia
Hope that helps.
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