I can't find these in the books

[waxcap]

I'm not sure what these are, both were on the lawn. One is a waxcap but I'm not sure which one. The other is a boletus about 2cm tall yellow pores, reddish stipe and a purple downy cap. Stipe discouloured on handling but the pores didn't go blue when cut.





Thanks

Dave

[gobbiner]

Is first one a Spangle Waxcap Hygrocybe insipida just a thought cheers...Ray

[Lancashire Lad]

Originally Posted by gobbiner

Is first one a Spangle Waxcap Hygrocybe insipida just a thought cheers...Ray

Could be a good shout Ray, on the basis of what we can see!

For waxcaps (and almost everything else too ) in the world of fungi, a good detailed shot of the underside & stipe is worth a thousand words.

H.insipida is probably as good a shout as anything else, although there are conceivably a few more that these could be.

The only thing I can suggest for the second, is that you may have a young Boletus rubellus (Xerocomus versicolor) - which, according to my understanding does have this colour and velvety textured cap when young. - Not sure about the stipe bluing like that though.

Regards,
Mike.

[waxcap]

Many thanks for that. I appreciate the photo wasn't good for identification but by the time I realised I couldn't identify it I'd mown it down!

[fairplay]

I don't think this is Boletus rubellus, I have seen them at all stages, but not with this tone of red and definitely not with this colour of stipe or overall shape even.

I have looked at other 'red' capped Boletes and apart from the 'lumpy' cap fitting B.pinophilus, there is no white network on the stem.

You may have something special there.

Neil.

[Lancashire Lad]

Originally Posted by fairplay

I don't think this is Boletus rubellus, I have seen them at all stages, but not with this tone of red and definitely not with this colour of stipe or overall shape even....

Photos of the very young fruitbodies shown on http://www.mushroomexpert.com/boletus_rubellus.html look much like this

But I've never seen them in the flesh, so they might not be typical (or colour correct).

Regards,
Mike.

[fairplay]

Food for thought Mike certainly, but I'm still not convinced.

Neil.

[flaxton]

I associate a lumpy cap with X pruinatus which apparently can occur with deep red-black through plum colours but the stipe is bright golden yellow when young with fine punctae scattered over the lower half but it does bruise blue. Having looked through my photos I realised that either I have previously identified them incorrectly (which is always possible ) or X rubellus can also have a lumpy cap. The stem is a much better fit so I am pretty sure this is Xerocomus rubellus.

Mal

[waxcap]

Thanks everyone.

It was very small/young. I said the pores didn't turn blue when cut but what I should have said is they didn't turn blue quickly. Apparently Xerocomus rubellus changes colour slowly and I didn't wait long

We do have a Very large Oak nearby. This was growing around 20m away on the "unimproved" lawn.

The colour I see on the computer is the colour of the boletus - it really was a lovely burgundy colour and the stipe had a reddy tinge. I had knocked it over (while mowing) so I stood it up for the photo and the discolouration towards the base happened after I'd handled it.

[fairplay]

If this is accepted as Boletus rubellus, then I believe more work needs to be done at separating species within the Boletus chrysenteron complex.

As it is, we have 2 clearly separate stipe colours which I feel is unacceptable.

Neil.