2 bolete for id if poss please.

[the naturelover]

Hi. can anyone id these two bolete for me please. found today growing on a steep bank of very very deep leaf mould in mixed woods mainly decidious in this area.

When i first saw this i thought suede bolete. the cap is certainly very dark brown and has a distinct velvet texture. stipe is red at base and yellow at the top. underside of the cap is bright yellow. NO STAINING when cut or bruised. no distinctive odour.

When i saw this one i thought bay bolete. shiny slimy wet cap. I do not know if it was because of the very deep ground it was growing in but the stipe was about 1 inch from the ground but another 5 underneath. pure white as was the underside of the cap. NO STAINING when cut or bruised no distinctive odour.
regards tn.

[flaxton]

Not totally convinced but the one Xerocomus with that distinctive lumpy cap is X pruinatus. This should stain blue in the stipe base but it still looks right to me.
The second one even without the blueing is B badius. X ferrugineus is one of the few Xerocomus that has white unchanging flesh but this does not look like that species to me.

MAl

[the naturelover]

Many thanks for you're help. I appreciate these are not the easiest to id.
regards tn.

[fairplay]

Originally Posted by Cep

The top one looks like a Red Cracked Bolete...

Welcome to WAB Cep - could you tell us what you mean by 'Red cracked Bolete' as this has been broken up into several different species and I suspect your reference book may be out of date.

Neil.

[Ken Burgess]

Originally Posted by flaxton

the one Xerocomus with that distinctive lumpy cap is X pruinatus... The second one even without the blueing is B badius.

I'd agree with both suggestions. In addition to the distinctive wrinkled cap texture, the upper part of the stem in X. pruinatus is usually a distinctive lemon-chrome, as is the flesh in the cut stem, both of which characters are apparent in these photos.

Always worth looking at any mycelium around the stem base for this group. In X. pruinatus it should be yellow, while in X. chrysenteron it should be a pale cream.

Ken

[the naturelover]

Thanks Ken.
I did not realise that work had been done on these. I was just at the stage of being confident with scarletina and red cracking bolete. Now I will have to be even more careful.
I can conform that this is deffinately pruinatus as i have gone back to my pictures and the mycelium is deffinately yellow.
Again my thanks.
regards tn.