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03-09-2011, 12:14 PM
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| | | Curious fungal associations from FRDBBI I've just pulled down a list of associated organisms for Mugwort from FRDBBI and am very intrigued by some of the records. Here's the full lot of 71 fungi associated with Artemisia vulgaris, with some of the more obvious oddities highlighted: - Agaricus silvicola var. silvicola (Basidiomycota: Agaricales)
- Amanita rubescens var. rubescens (Basidiomycota: Agaricales)
- Boeremia exigua var. exigua (Ascomycota: Pleosporales)
- Calycina herbarum (Ascomycota: Helotiales)
- Camarosporium aequivocum (Ascomycota: Botryosphaeriales)
- Colletotrichum dematium (Ascomycota: Incertae sedis)
- Coprinopsis radiata (Basidiomycota: Agaricales)
- Daldinia concentrica (Ascomycota: Xylariales)
- Dendryphion comosum (Ascomycota: Pleosporales)
- Diaporthe (Ascomycota: Diaporthales)
- Diaporthe arctii var. artemisiae (Ascomycota: Diaporthales)
- Entoloma ameides (Basidiomycota: Agaricales)
- Entoloma sericellum (Basidiomycota: Agaricales)
- Erysiphe (Ascomycota: Erysiphales)
- Erysiphe artemisiae (Ascomycota: Erysiphales)
- Fusarium (Ascomycota: Hypocreales)
- Golovinomyces cichoracearum var. cichoracearum (Ascomycota: Erysiphales)
- Hymenoscyphus scutula (Ascomycota: Helotiales)
- Hypoderma commune (Ascomycota: Rhytismatales)
- Inocybe geophylla var. geophylla (Basidiomycota: Agaricales)
- Inocybe lanuginosa (Basidiomycota: Agaricales)
- Junghuhnia nitida (Basidiomycota: Polyporales)
- Lactarius quietus (Basidiomycota: Russulales)
- Lasiobelonium mollissimum (Ascomycota: Helotiales)
- Leptosphaeria (Ascomycota: Pleosporales)
- Leptosphaeria agnita (Ascomycota: Pleosporales)
- Leptosphaeria purpurea (Ascomycota: Pleosporales)
- Leptospora rubella (Ascomycota: Pleosporales)
- Massarina igniaria (Ascomycota: Pleosporales)
- Mollisia (Ascomycota: Helotiales)
- Mollisia coerulans (Ascomycota: Helotiales)
- Mycena galopus var. galopus (Basidiomycota: Agaricales)
- Mycena olivaceomarginata (Basidiomycota: Agaricales)
- Mycosphaerella osborniae (Ascomycota: Capnodiales)
- Mycovellosiella ferruginea (Ascomycota: Capnodiales)
- Neoerysiphe galeopsidis (Ascomycota: Erysiphales)
- Oidium (Ascomycota: Erysiphales)
- Ophiobolus acuminatus (Ascomycota: Pleosporales)
- Ophiobolus erythrosporus (Ascomycota: Pleosporales)
- Peniophorella pubera (Basidiomycota: Polyporales)
- Periconia (Ascomycota: Pleosporales)
- Peziza echinospora (Ascomycota: Pezizales)
- Pezizella discreta (Ascomycota: Helotiales)
- Phaeosphaeria vagans (Ascomycota: Pleosporales)
- Phaeosphaeria vagans (Ascomycota: Pleosporales)
- Phoma (Ascomycota: Pleosporales)
- Phomopsis oblita (Ascomycota: Diaporthales)
- Physarum bitectum (Amoebozoa: Physarida)
- Pirottaea nigrostriata (Ascomycota: Helotiales)
- Pleurophragmium parvisporum (Ascomycota: Incertae sedis)
- Polyporus squamosus (Basidiomycota: Polyporales)
- Psathyrella candolleana (Basidiomycota: Agaricales)
- Psathyrella potteri (Basidiomycota: Agaricales)
- Psilocybe semilanceata (Basidiomycota: Agaricales)
- Puccinia malvacearum (Basidiomycota: Pucciniales)
- Puccinia tanaceti (Basidiomycota: Pucciniales)
- Pyrenopeziza artemisiae (Ascomycota: Helotiales)
- Rhytisma punctatum (Ascomycota: Rhytismatales)
- Russula ochroleuca (Basidiomycota: Russulales)
- Sphaerotheca fuliginea (Ascomycota: Erysiphales)
- Stereum gausapatum (Basidiomycota: Russulales)
- Strobilomyces strobilaceus (Basidiomycota: Boletales)
- Stropharia semiglobata (Basidiomycota: Agaricales)
- Suillus luteus (Basidiomycota: Boletales)
- Thelephora terrestris (Basidiomycota: Thelephorales)
- Torula herbarum (Ascomycota: Incertae sedis)
- Trametes versicolor (Basidiomycota: Polyporales)
- Trichia decipiens var. decipiens (Amoebozoa: Trichiida)
- Trichia persimilis (Amoebozoa: Trichiida)
- Tubaria furfuracea (Basidiomycota: Agaricales)
- Xylaria hypoxylon (Ascomycota: Xylariales)
I'd presume that quite a few are just based on the nearest plant at the time the collection was made, but many of these are single records with nice data attached by one Chris Yeates  and have supporting vouchers. Quite a few of the basidio associations appear to stem from a series of collections in the autumn of 1918 (in Yorkshire, of course).
Apart from being intrigued by some of these records, I'm also interested in how one might interpret them. For instance the record for Puccinia malvacearum appears to be just about the only one of 800+ in FRDBBI not associated with a Mallow ( Malva, Alcea, Althea and Lavatera). As this rust is just about ubiquitous on mallows (and hollyhocks as gardeners know), the FRDBBI records are just a small part of our knowledge of this fungus. I suppose the problem is that we don't have any generic mechanism to highlight such oddities. | 
03-09-2011, 03:11 PM
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| | | Re: Curious fungal associations from FRDBBI hi Jerry
yes indeed - mea culpa in a way for a number of the Yorkshire records; this was done quite a while ago and at the time getting almost 90,000 records off the DOS version of RECORDER then on to Lotus123 (remember that?) then on to Excel and then on to BMSFRD (as it was then) caused some 'phasing' shall we call it - I probably have a few of my personal records identified by M.C. Cooke
moves are afoot to take off all the Yorkshire records and reinstall them - should be easier this time
can't speak for any oddities from other counties, mind
cheers
Chris
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03-09-2011, 03:26 PM
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| | | Re: Curious fungal associations from FRDBBI Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris Yeates hi Jerry
yes indeed - mea culpa in a way for a number of the Yorkshire records; this was done quite a while ago and at the time getting almost 90,000 records off the DOS version of RECORDER then on to Lotus123 (remember that?) then on to Excel and then on to BMSFRD (as it was then) caused some 'phasing' shall we call it - I probably have a few of my personal records identified by M.C. Cooke
moves are afoot to take off all the Yorkshire records and reinstall them - should be easier this time
can't speak for any oddities from other counties, mind
cheers
Chris | Sorry Chris for revealing this in public  .
It never occurred to me that I'd hit on a technical artefact: but it is of course a much more parsimonious explanation than something strange in the air or ground of Yorks in 1918.
Unfortunately FRDBBI doesn't allow one to see the history of the record: which would be quite useful to catch technical corrections (including, for instance, changes in nomenclature).
For now it means that using the associated organism to find things not mentioned in Ellis & Ellis wont work very well!
Jerry aka Posch | 
03-09-2011, 04:23 PM
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| | | Re: Curious fungal associations from FRDBBI Quote:
Originally Posted by poschiavanus Sorry Chris for revealing this in public  . . | that's not a problem . . . . Quote:
Originally Posted by poschiavanus Unfortunately FRDBBI doesn't allow one to see the history of the record: which would be quite useful to catch technical corrections (including, for instance, changes in nomenclature). | one of the tweaks I shall ensure happens when we update is that the original name which FRDBI sometimes shows is the original name of the original record - (this is something I do punctiliously with the Yorkshire records - even down to the spelling or other orthographical variants) - and not the 'currently active' name sent to the database - hope that makes sense Quote:
Originally Posted by poschiavanus For now it means that using the associated organism to find things not mentioned in Ellis & Ellis wont work very well! 
Jerry aka Posch | dunno about that - you just have to be on your toes and spot the glaringly obvious slips - my technique tends to be that I call up the associated organism and scan down to see which members of the order in which my fungus belongs have been returned (one should at least be able to have worked that much out - though with asco's, especially the 'pyrenomycetes' it might be a choice of two or three orders); it's still a long way better than nothing
Chris
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