Found some lepiota's

[violet_bug]

I found these 2 specimins on some soil which a mole dug up in the garden, them mole's do do some good!
I believe these are Macrolepiota rhacodes?
They bruise red to the touch very quickly smell fairly pleasant.

[Chris Yeates]

Originally Posted by violet_bug

I found these 2 specimins on some soil which a mole dug up in the garden, them mole's do do some good!
I believe these are Macrolepiota rhacodes?
They bruise red to the touch very quickly smell fairly pleasant.

hi VB

following the recent article in Field Mycology on the rachodes group these would appear to be Chlorophyllum brunneum* - that marginate bulb is a major pointer

microscopy would make things simpler - to quote the article in FM (not FHM) "
Notes: . . . records of C. rachodes should be treated with caution without field notes and microscopic examination."

unfortunately yet another area where things are not as straightforward as was previously thought - see also: Chlorophyllum

best

Chris

* = Macrolepiota rhacodes var. hortensis (Pilát) Wasser
= Macrolepiota rhacodes var. bohemica (Wichanský) Bellù & Lanzoni

[NickCantle]

I would certainly agree with C. brunneum Chris. Certainly not Rhacodes.

[violet_bug]

Thanks very much for your replys guys, its confused me as when typing the name Chlorophyllum brunneum on google i get shaggy parasol come up but i believe shaggy parasol to be Macrolepiota rhacodes.
Im not saying i disagree i just find that confusing maybe the person who uploaded a photo on google mislabeled the name would be more understanding.

Was great to see some good sized fungi in the garden boarders! Beats them artifical ones huh!

[Chris Yeates]

Originally Posted by violet_bug

Thanks very much for your replys guys, its confused me as when typing the name Chlorophyllum brunneum on google i get shaggy parasol come up but i believe shaggy parasol to be Macrolepiota rhacodes.
Im not saying i disagree i just find that confusing maybe the person who uploaded a photo on google mislabeled the name would be more understanding.

the lessons to be drawn then are:

• mycology doesn't stay still
• don't treat everything you see on the internet as gospel - people often do not update web pages to stay in line with current thinking
• the current name for 'Macrolepiota rachodes' is Chlorophyllum rhacodes, because it has been proved not to be so closely related to Macrolepiota procera (parasol mushroom) as was previously thought
• the use of English names, while it might appear to make things easier, particularly for beginners, can actually cause confusion - the scientific names are at least ruled by strict laws under ICBN; if you don't want to have to learn both the scientific name and the English name, perhaps its best to make sure you know the former - there are (reliable) sources to check on current usage, e.g.: Species list - British Fungi

best

Chris

[NickCantle]

...the Mycology not staying still bit;

Once you learn both names, be fully prepared for them (usually both scientific and common) to be changed within a short stretch of time.

Pain in the bum!