Identification of various fungi please

[Johnny81]

This was taken yesterday, on a woodland edge under some young Ash trees. Northamptonshire. Measured 12 cm in dia. No particular smell.


Also taken yesterday on a woodland edge. I accidentally wiped my picture of the gills, but they was pure black and look liked they were rotting.


This was taken in an ancient woodland in Northamptonshire. I think it is Sarcoscypha austrica? About 3-4cm in dia.

Many thanks

[PeterK]

Hi John Always reluctant about identifying Fungi from pics but your number three looks like an Orange peel Peziza, cup 1-12 cms,irregular shaped, often split, if so it would be "downy on the out side"
IE Peziza (Aleuria) Aurantia

Good Foraying Peter

[FungiJohn]

Originally Posted by Johnny81

This was taken yesterday, on a woodland edge under some young Ash trees. Northamptonshire. Measured 12 cm in dia. No particular smell.


Also taken yesterday on a woodland edge. I accidentally wiped my picture of the gills, but they was pure black and look liked they were rotting.


This was taken in an ancient woodland in Northamptonshire. I think it is Sarcoscypha austrica? About 3-4cm in dia.

Many thanks

Hi John

Disciotis venosa and quite typical in vicinity of Ash. If you find this again, rub the flesh for its distinctive smell of bleach!

Coprinus, probably C. micaceus

Old Sarcoscypha coccinea / Sarcoscypha austriaca

John

[Johnny81]

Cheers guys! Am I correct in thinking all blackened species that look like they are dripping ink all Coprinus species? Trying to learn the common ones and nail the families, but I think that is as far as I want to take mycology at the moment!

[Chris Yeates]

Originally Posted by Johnny81

Cheers guys! Am I correct in thinking all blackened species that look like they are dripping ink all Coprinus species? Trying to learn the common ones and nail the families, but I think that is as far as I want to take mycology at the moment!

sadly it's not as simple as that!

recent molecular work has shown that the old concept of Coprinus is just not tenable and there has been a lot of redisposing into other genera

so in one sense yes you're right - if it goes inky it's an ink-cap - and you can call it "Coprinus in the old sense"; of course not all the old Coprinus species did go inky - those are now placed in the genus Parasola

with regard to the "families" the family Coprinaceae has gone - the well-known lawyer's wig Coprinus comatus and its relatives are now in the Agaricaceae; with Coprinopsis, Coprinellus and Parasola now all in the Psathyrellaceae

and that's putting it quite simply; so, interestingly,"going inky" is not a major identifying character - it happens in both families (and often doesn't happen in one of them) - I'm not trying to put you off - honest! . . . but it is unfair to pretend that mycology is an easy area once you start to delve into it a bit

cheers

Chris

[flaxton]

And don't forget another one with ink droplets on the gills Lacrymaria lacrymabunda the Weeping Widow which is not an Ink Cap.

Mal

[FungiJohn]

Or Inonotus dryadeus

John

[mollisia]

Hello,

but you can't compare the guttulation of several species, which just yield droplets in some way, with the autolysis that the coprinoid species do.

Droplet you can see in many more species, sometimes coloured, sometimes watery clear. They can even be a character for distinction of two close related species, e.g. Suillus granulatus with milk white droplets and Suillus collinitus with water clear droplets. Species which regularily exude drops are e.g. Chamaemyces fracidus, Tricholoma pardalotum, Fomitopsis pinicola, Hydnellum peckii and ferrugineus. But there are surely more of them.

But none of them dissolves like the inking Coprinus s.l. species!

best regards,
Andreas