cup fungi for id please

[ashgale]

while taking a photo of some dumped builders rubbish in some local woodland to send to the local council,
i noticed this patch of yellow dots which on closer inspection were tiny yellow cup shaped fungi around 2/3mm across, quite a few large patches of them,


and almost together , were masses of this brown cup shaped fungi, hundreds of them in tight clusters,


both were growing directly onto the ground (a black sludgy mass of dubious nature)

note:both pictures show small portions detached from the main bodys of fungi,
as the substrate they were growing in was decidedly pongy
apologies for the poor picture quality, as they were handheld shots, so a bit wobbly

any pointers on the id of either most welcome,

[mollisia]

Hello,

its difficult to tell which species you have found without knowing microscopical details. On the other hand it would be fairly easy to come at least close to a species name WHEN we would know the microscopical details.
The biotop they were growing suggests for the latter that it could be Peziza proteana. For the first there are many possibilities, depending on the size, on the substrat (burried wood or nakes soil?), etc.

best regards,
Andreas

[ashgale]

Hi, both were growing directly on what passed for soil,
it was a black sticky substance, quite unlike the surrounding soil which is a light sandy texture,
so it must have been something dumped either with the builders rubbish, or from an earlier lot of rubbish,
(its a common site for the illegal dumping of rubbish )

there was no underlying wood where both types were growing, the black deposits were several inches deep,

i had given the second one a tentative id of a pezzia species, but beyond that i dont have a clue,

the first i had down as an Orbilia sp, but from what i can find, these usually only grow on wood, so no idea on this one either

thanks,
ashgale.