Mazegill?& E. Plana?

[diggleken]

Hi all, grateful for a steer with these please - 1st on Willow. Its old but dry and with spiders webs on it, maybe Birch mazegill, Lenzites betulinus? It seems to have some short hairs on the upper surface, size about 3'' max across. Pores are golden brown mainly with long mazes but occasional round bits.

Plus this close by on wet cut down willow, is it exidia plana?
Smooth top, but only with odd warts, its very wet and bulked out, but it was in quite a large amorphous mass, not small individuals - is it developing towards a more brain like structure like plana?

cheers
Ken

[Ditiola]

I think one needs to be careful with the dark coloured lumpy jelly fungi

As there is also the truncate form of Exidia gladulosa that used to be called E.truncata. and there are a couple of similar looking ascomycetes: Ascotremella fagina and Neobulgaria pura var. foliacea.

Peter

[diggleken]

Wise words Peter!
I looked at all those jellies, but inconclusive to me, just thought, as you do, more experience would help, but I think you've highlighted the problem............
Cheers
Ken

[Chris Yeates]

Originally Posted by diggleken

Hi all, grateful for a steer with these please - 1st on Willow. Its old but dry and with spiders webs on it, maybe Birch mazegill, Lenzites betulinus? It seems to have some short hairs on the upper surface, size about 3'' max across. Pores are golden brown mainly with long mazes but occasional round bits.


cheers
Ken

hi Ken

to me the top one looks like a variety of Daedaleopsis confragosa with an almost lamellate hymenophore . . . these have on occasion been misidentified in the UK as D. tricolor - I've been confused by fruitbodies like this (again on Salix) myself in the past

cheers

Chris

[diggleken]

Evening Chris, good to speak again.
I thought it D. Confragosa at first too, then noticed the pores were unlike normal short runs in that spp, they are long runs I'm not used to, so appeared mazegillish, which is why I asked on here as they arent ones I know at all well.
fruitbodies are all similar widths too, none had gone any larger, as D.C. is /can be much bigger, even on the same branch, so that biased my thinking too. Mind, Willow is more right for that!
Back to the drawing board.......................inconclusive?
Cheers
Ken

[Chris Yeates]

Originally Posted by diggleken

. . . . .
Back to the drawing board.......................inconclusive?
Cheers
Ken

not at all - I was not being assertive enough I see!
In my opinion it is Daedaleopsis confragosa, which can have such quasi-lamellate undersides; see:

Daedaleopsis confragosa - Botany Photo of the Day
and
Picasa Web Albums - Jerry Brendle

from Nordic Macromycetes 3:
"Hymenophore poroid, daedaloid to almost lamellate; frb up to 10 * 22 x 2.5 cm; growing margin not white (Fig. 437). — On wood of deciduous trees, preferably Salix."

(my underlining)

Chris

[diggleken]

Right!
Why didnt you say so............................
Cheers Chris
Ken

[Ken Burgess]

Originally Posted by Chris Yeates

not at all - I was not being assertive enough I see!
In my opinion it is Daedaleopsis confragosa

Yes. It is.

Ken