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03-12-2010, 05:50 PM
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| | | Fungi that escaped id first time round With my local woods now looking like this, and the thermometer registering minus 11 this morning, the prospect of finding fresh fungi looks slim.
So I've started to go back through my records to find all those I never got round to identifying first time round. And a second look at others which I'd given distinctly dodgy ids   .
First is this Blackening Russula. Under Pine, with birch and beech close by, in acid heath/plantation. Found Mid August.
These were young, but are the gills too closely spaced and fine for Russula nigricans? From the various keys I have, it would appear that R nigricans is the only blackening one that can be identified in the field, because it has widely spaced, thick gills. So I guess it is a case of ruling it in, or ruling it out, (or sitting on the fence) .... I took no other details.
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03-12-2010, 07:20 PM
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| | | Re: Fungi that escaped id first time round Melanie
Doesn't that look like Collybia maculata?
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03-12-2010, 07:25 PM
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| | | Re: Fungi that escaped id first time round Hello,
yes, defintely Rhodocollybia maculata.
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Andreas
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03-12-2010, 07:29 PM
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| | | Re: Fungi that escaped id first time round Quote:
Originally Posted by mollisia Hello,
yes, defintely Rhodocollybia maculata.
best regards,
Andreas | Over on this side of the water we are still on Collybia | 
03-12-2010, 07:30 PM
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| | | Re: Fungi that escaped id first time round This is one of the advantages of microfungi - much easier to collect material to look at later - I've probably got boxes full of dried leaves/twigs etc. (all with collection details of course  ) if I get desperate. Plus the old coprophiles will provide pyreno's, disco's, pin moulds and agarics  . I don't believe in close seasons in mycology  .
So we're in for people's 'sweepings', inconclusive photo's etc. now are we? Not to mention the car-boot bargain basement that is Russula Quote:
Originally Posted by SheffieldLass From the various keys I have, it would appear that R nigricans is the only blackening one that can be identified in the field, because it has widely spaced, thick gills. So I guess it is a case of ruling it in, or ruling it out, (or sitting on the fence) .... I took no other details.
Thanks
Melanie | It is also one of the few Russula species with numerous intermediate gills - yours appear to have those or is it my imagination? Though I'm not convinced it is an accursed R******
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03-12-2010, 07:32 PM
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| | | Re: Fungi that escaped id first time round Quote:
Originally Posted by flaxton Melanie
Doesn't that look like Collybia maculata?
Mal | ha! beat me to it - while I was being smug
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03-12-2010, 07:33 PM
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| | | Re: Fungi that escaped id first time round Quote:
Originally Posted by flaxton Over on this side of the water we are still on Collybia  | On this side of the River Ouse it's Rhodocollybia
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03-12-2010, 09:31 PM
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| | | Re: Fungi that escaped id first time round Up in Scarborough it will be the first record of Rhodocollybia maculata to be entered in the FRDBI | 
04-12-2010, 01:14 AM
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| | | Re: Fungi that escaped id first time round Quote:
Originally Posted by flaxton Melanie
Doesn't that look like Collybia maculata?
Mal |    You're right, of course. I'm losing the plot (again)
Daft thing is, I'd recorded R maculata from another part of the forest at about the same time as the one first pictured.
There was a range of similarish looking fungi growing in that spot within a few yards of each other, over a week or so in August, that I'd glimpsed but not properly looked at, and when I came across those photos my memory had lumped them all together as the same thing   . I remember there was something that looked, had the texture and greasiness and smell rather like Russula subfoetens there, which I kept on ignoring until it was way past its best. And a number that had really blackened, that I also kept on ignoring, and also this one which was what I was thinking of when I posted the other. 
This one isn't R maculata, or is it? You can see there is a resemblence to the first with the pink/red spots, but the gills do look much wider spaced ....
Melanie | 
04-12-2010, 11:50 AM
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| | | Re: Fungi that escaped id first time round Hello Chris, Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris Yeates It is also one of the few Russula species with numerous intermediate gills - yours appear to have those or is it my imagination? | you are correct, Russulas don't have intzermediate gills - except the Nigricantes (blackening Russulas and delica s.l.). So for THAT character it could have been a Russula from the nigricans relationship.
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Andreas
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