Help with Marasmius species

[FungiJohn]

Hello all

Whilst at Sherwood Pines 17th October 2010 with Jaybie and Les, we came across what I assumed was Marasmius androsaceus, but it just doesn’t look right!! Or am I just losing it in such a busy season



Any comments as always much appreciated

John

[flaxton]

Comments - great image.
What is it????????
I looks like a Marasmius but I don't think androsaceus. Have you got a gill shot

Mal

[Ken Burgess]

Hi John

I agree that it doesn't look right for Marasmius androsaceus. Given the very dark stem which gets paler towards the apex, the only suggestions I can come up with are perhaps young specimens of one of the species formerly in Micromphale, now Gymnopus i.e. Gymnopus perforans or Gymnopus brassicolens. But both species tend to have radially grooved caps (perhaps more so as they mature) and both would have a distinct smell. I guess you didn't smell these as you assumed they were Marasmius androsaceus?

Ken

[FungiJohn]

Originally Posted by flaxton

Comments - great image.
What is it????????
I looks like a Marasmius but I don't think androsaceus. Have you got a gill shot

Mal

Thanks Mal

Of course I have a gill shot ... I just forgot to include it

Originally Posted by Ken Burgess

Hi John

I agree that it doesn't look right for Marasmius androsaceus. Given the very dark stem which gets paler towards the apex, the only suggestions I can come up with are perhaps young specimens of one of the species formerly in Micromphale, now Gymnopus i.e. Gymnopus perforans or Gymnopus brassicolens. But both species tend to have radially grooved caps (perhaps more so as they mature) and both would have a distinct smell. I guess you didn't smell these as you assumed they were Marasmius androsaceus?

Ken

Hi Ken

I didn't notice any distinctive smell other than the typical 'pine litter' smell.

Here is an image of the gills ... Sorry it's not a good one



John

[jaybie]

At the risk of hindering rather than helping I thought I would post this shot of the ones that were found close by the ones John has posted.



These do appear to show the distinct differences.

JohnB

[flaxton]

These look like texbook M androsaceus. Maybee I have never seen them young enough to look like Johns. The almost omphalanoid look to one or two makes me doubt that they are the same.

Mal