Inocybe (?) ID please?

[eiona]

I captured these two weeks ago at Center Parcs Longleat Forest in mostly coniferous woodland. I'm thinking along the lines of a fibrecap or rather Inocybe but stumped as to the correct ID. I couldn't pick it apart to see the gills, nor smell it because I was on holiday with a group of people and didn't want to hold them up. Any help please?






Thanks

eiona

[Ditiola]

Eiona
I do not think it looks quite right for Inocybe, but I may be wrong. What colour are the spores?

Peter

[eiona]

Hi Peter

As I explained, I couldn't examine it under the circumstances and the second image was taken at a zoom of 184mm- so you can see how far away I was. In a nutshell- don't know what the spore colours are, sorry.

I'd gone through ever Inocybe in my books and on the web and failed to find it. I guess I was barking up the wrong tree and need a rethink as to where to start from.

Thanks

eiona

[fairplay]

If these really are Inocybe (and I think they are) then I would immediately say these are I.hysterix which are quite rare and I have only found once.

Problems is I.hysterix and its look-a-like, I.obscura both prefer deciduous woods and your photo is taken in a coniferous habitat.

Even the bristly stem looks right for I.hysterix (sigh)

Neil.

[fairplay]

I have just checked the Fungal Records Database and a lot of records are from Scotland with a couple from conifer forests and more from mixed woodland.

My find was from mixed woodland so I think I.hysterix is looking good, but as with most Inocybe spp. it would have to be confirmed under a microscope.

Neil.

EDIT: what the hell did I mention Scotland for ?

[eiona]

Hi Neil,

Many thanks for this. I'm happy to go along with I.hystrix because the whole forest itself is a mixture of conifers and deciduous. This happened to be underneath some kind of pine ( I forget which) though not too far away, and I 'm talking a mere few yards, there were beeches and oaks with lots of beech and oak litter on the ground.

Cheers

eiona

[fairplay]

Phew !!

Some Kew staff are away on holiday at present, leading forays abroad etc, and they are presently inundated with samples and emails to respond to, so I think it best to google up Hampshire Fungus Recording Group, click membership > contact, and give Stuart Skeates a ring or email him with a copy of this thread.

Stuart is vice-president of the BMS and would know what best to do.

Neil.

EDIT: I haven't got my head screwed on right this morning, I should have posted this on the purple Lepiota thread.

[eiona]

Lucky mine is just about screwed on enough to have seen the edit

Cheers

[Chris Yeates]

Originally Posted by fairplay

If these really are Inocybe (and I think they are) then I would immediately say these are I.hysterix which are quite rare and I have only found once.

Problems is I.hysterix and its look-a-like, I.obscura both prefer deciduous woods and your photo is taken in a coniferous habitat.

Even the bristly stem looks right for I.hysterix (sigh)

Neil.

hi

there are a lot more look-alikes to I. hystrix than I. obscura; I'm still not totally convinced it's an Inocybe based on just these views

Chris

[eiona]

Hi Chris

I'm going to add more to the confusion now, I'm afraid. I've taken a look at all the fungus images taken that day which I'd stored on an ext portable hard disk drive and came across this one ...



Any further input from anyone please?

eiona