2 fungi for id please

[rawzone]

Can anyone id these 2 fungi please the pictures were taken in a birch wood.










Many thanks
Richard

[fairplay]

You have 2 difficult genera here - Tricholoma and Hypholoma.

The first could be T.scalpturatum, but with nothing else to go on, there are other 'greys' to consider.

The other I won't even guess at.

Neil.

[rawzone]

Neil,

thanks for trying to id these awkward fungi.

Richard

[rawzone]

Could the second lot be Hebeloma - Poison pie?

Richard

[Chris Yeates]

Originally Posted by rawzone

Could the second lot be Hebeloma - Poison pie?

Richard

it is a Hebeloma and could be within the crustuliniforme complex of species, but it is an extraordinarily difficult genus a lot of the time - even the world expert has stopped using his own monograph to name them so I understand, so up in the air are they

quite frankly I would suspect that half the illustrations of "Hebeloma crustuliniforme" in books or on the web are probably something else - 'nuff said

cheers

Chris

[fairplay]

I couldn't work out why Richard repeated 'Hebeloma' (and dangerously fell into the trap of suggesting Poison Pie !)

Of course, I realise now I wrote Hypholoma, instead of Hebeloma. Doh !

Neil.

EDIT: I know what I mean, most of the time, sometimes.

[rawzone]

I realise some of the fungi are not so straightforward to id, but it's nice to get to know from the people with knowledge, and much appreciated.

Many thanks

Richard