Mushroom need to be identified

Pluteus51 · #1 (**permalink**) 24-09-2010, 12:31 PM

Well, hello everyone! My congratulations on autumnal equinox day!!

Please friends tell me what is this??

This mushroom grew on ground in the forest with many pine-trees. And there were some junipers there and a lake not far away.

The odor was some soapy but not fungoid.

Distinctive cracking all over stem is natural:

Well what is this??

Pluteus51 · #2 (**permalink**) 24-09-2010, 02:03 PM

I've forgotten to tell: these mushrooms have been picked up in early august

Lancashire Lad · #3 (**permalink**) 24-09-2010, 02:20 PM

Hi Pluteus, and welcome to WAB.

It could be that the soapy smell has almost given you the answer.

Your fungus does look like Soap Tricholoma - Tricholoma saponaceum

I'm not sure if the cracking of the stipe is typical of the species, but going on your photo's and mention of soapy smell, that would be my suggestion.

A full undercap/gill shot would have been useful. (Have a quick read of the sticky threads at the top of the forum index page for future reference).

Regards,
Mike.

Pluteus51 · #4 (**permalink**) 24-09-2010, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Lancashire Lad

Hi Pluteus, and welcome to WAB.

It could be that the soapy smell has almost given you the answer.

Your fungus does look like Soap Tricholoma - Tricholoma saponaceum

I'm not sure if the cracking of the stipe is typical of the species, but going on your photo's and mention of soapy smell, that would be my suggestion.

A full undercap/gill shot would have been useful. (Have a quick read of the sticky threads at the top of the forum index page for future reference).

Regards,
Mike.

Thank you Mike for the answer. Please look at the asked undercap shot. There is a small fungi on this shot and it may be visible closer and the giils of biggers (colour) may be visible closer:

At that i have additional questions. It seems that mentioned Tricholoma saponaceum should have rather more bright gills than my fungi, and (look attentively) - the smaller specimen rather another than small speciments of soap tricholoma - Tricholoma saponaceum var. squamosum fo. ardosiacum José Ignacio Gómez, isn't it?

So, maybe i'm not right as this Type species of Tricholoma is very variable???

And what to do with the stipe cracking?

About the smell: i read somewhere that some inocybe species does have a soapy odour.. Could mushroom on my photos be some of inocybes?

So what will be your "definitive verdict"?

in advance thanks for answering

p.s. sorry for my english if not correct somewhere - i'm not english-speaking person.

NickCantle · #5 (**permalink**) 24-09-2010, 04:09 PM

In mycology, there is rarely a 'definitive verdict'

Pluteus51 · #6 (**permalink**) 24-09-2010, 04:15 PM

Could it be Collybia peronata?

NickCantle · #7 (**permalink**) 24-09-2010, 04:18 PM

I doubt it, it looks far too substantial. I think Mike's on the ball with Tricholoma.

Pluteus51 · #8 (**permalink**) 24-09-2010, 04:26 PM

By the way, i know one another fungi type which does have a very similar smell to that up in the thread. Nice soapy. These are:

So i don't know exactly the type of it.. They grew on conifer and been picked in december. Some collybia?

NickCantle · #9 (**permalink**) 24-09-2010, 04:33 PM

Have no idea about those, sorry! They don't look Collybioid to me, more Entoloma with those pinkish gills. Probably not though

Pluteus51 · #10 (**permalink**) 24-09-2010, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by NickCantle

I doubt it, it looks far too substantial. I think Mike's on the ball with Tricholoma.

In other words, you suggest that this is soap trichloma.

Well.

But it stays darkly that these fungi grew on august, 6 (time of the shot) while the fruiting period of soap fungi is from at least late august and on in my region...