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19-09-2010, 09:55 AM
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| | | Four fungi for ID please | 
19-09-2010, 02:31 PM
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| | | Re: Four fungi for ID please Xerocomus cisalpinus is described as having a variable cap colour cracking to reveal pinkish/red flesh to that is good but the stem is very distinctive in having a bright golden yellow above and strongly red punctate below. With this in mind I would go for good old X chrysenteron.
The last is a Bolete of some sort infected by Hypomyces chrysospermus
Mal | 
19-09-2010, 06:17 PM
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| | | Re: Four fungi for ID please Because the gills of the waxcap are not decurrent I don't think Hygrocybe ceracea. I'm tempted to go for Hygrocybe psittacina although there isn't any really obvious green, but the yellow is a bit murky, with the base of the stem has a possible hint of green and also the gills look slightly pinkish. It might just be the light it was taken in though. The other possibility is Hygrocybe chlorophana, but that usually has a clean yellow. Did you do the kiss test? The cap of H ceracea is lubricous, H chlorophana lubricous to viscid, H psittacina viscid. H ceracea has a dry stem, H chlorophana can have a dry or moist to viscid stem. [i]H psittacina [/I has a viscid stem.
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Melanie | 
20-09-2010, 08:08 PM
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| | | Re: Four fungi for ID please Quote:
Originally Posted by flaxton Xerocomus cisalpinus is described as having a variable cap colour cracking to reveal pinkish/red flesh to that is good but the stem is very distinctive in having a bright golden yellow above and strongly red punctate below. With this in mind I would go for good old X chrysenteron.
The last is a Bolete of some sort infected by Hypomyces chrysospermus
Mal | Thanks for the ID Mal,
Bizzarely the Collins complete guide doesn't mention Xerocomus chrysenteron (or the red cracking bolete under any other latin names it has gone by according to Wikipedia at least) even though it's supposed to be a 'common' species. If I'm being honest I didn't think it was either the red cracking bolete or X. cisalpinus because of the pale colour of the cap below (although it is reddish in places). Is it that the redness just comes with age?
Jack | 
20-09-2010, 08:41 PM
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| | | Re: Four fungi for ID please Quote:
Originally Posted by SheffieldLass Because the gills of the waxcap are not decurrent I don't think Hygrocybe ceracea. I'm tempted to go for Hygrocybe psittacina although there isn't any really obvious green, but the yellow is a bit murky, with the base of the stem has a possible hint of green and also the gills look slightly pinkish. It might just be the light it was taken in though. The other possibility is Hygrocybe chlorophana, but that usually has a clean yellow. Did you do the kiss test? The cap of H ceracea is lubricous, H chlorophana lubricous to viscid, H psittacina viscid. H ceracea has a dry stem, H chlorophana can have a dry or moist to viscid stem. [i]H psittacina [/I has a viscid stem.
Cheers
Melanie | Cheers Melanie,
I must have overlooked the gill attachment part. Now you say it I think I may be able to make out a tiny hint of green at the edge of the cap aswell at one side...
I had originally ruled out H. chlorophana because the cap seems to be almost conical and the descriptions I had read said H. chlorophana was convex to flat. I'm afraid I didn't do the kiss test because I have no idea what it is!? It sounds interesting.
Jack
Oh yeah I forgot to add the only other photo I have of that waxcap. Here we go:
Oh, I've just realised that H. ceracea description doesn't mention the cap being conical either... Perhaps I was just being unobservant.
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20-09-2010, 10:36 PM
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| | | Re: Four fungi for ID please Quote:
Originally Posted by lipase Cheers Melanie,
I must have overlooked the gill attachment part. Now you say it I think I may be able to make out a tiny hint of green at the edge of the cap aswell at one side...
I had originally ruled out H. chlorophana because the cap seems to be almost conical and the descriptions I had read said H. chlorophana was convex to flat. I'm afraid I didn't do the kiss test because I have no idea what it is!? It sounds interesting.
Jack
Oh yeah I forgot to add the only other photo I have of that waxcap. Here we go:
Oh, I've just realised that H. ceracea description doesn't mention the cap being conical either... Perhaps I was just being unobservant. | The kiss test is to put your lips against the cap, which even if the cap has dried out will tell you if the cap is dry, waxy or viscid. Far more reliable than touching it with fingers with their coarse skin.
With your latest pic I'm now wondering whether it is an orangey coloured blackening waxcap (they are usually more red, but can sometimes be almost yellow) rather than the parrot waxcap. Can't quite tell if the black on that is it staining through bruising or just foreign matter ... on the stem it looks suspiciously like staining. The cap of that is waxy rather than viscid, and the stem dry not viscid.
Melanie | 
20-09-2010, 10:44 PM
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| | | Re: Four fungi for ID please Quote:
Originally Posted by SheffieldLass With your latest pic I'm now wondering whether it is an orangey coloured blackening waxcap | Must admit, that crossed my mind! |  | | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode |
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