joint YNU/MYFG/WAB autumn foray

[Chris Yeates]

hello all

just a quick starter, reporting on this Yorkshire-based foray

it was basically the Yorkshire Naturalists' Union mycological section foray, but joined up by members of (some in the previous organisation) the Mid Yorkshire Fungus Group, plus (via me publicising it on this website) WAB members as well

I apologise immediately to Fungi John and Nettlerunner Les who might have come today had the site been organised properly . . . to be frank we weren't sure how popular it would be to go into a second day in the field (that being originally intended for microscope work) - but in the event we had half a day's collecting in Hades (I kid you not!) south of Holmfirth

WAB members in attendance have been yours truly, Sheffield Lass, Alantb and Lipase - pleaes note this is not intended to compete in any way with the Clumber foray and any future similar events will be be kept well separate but the more the merrier really

so herewith the first of a few finds - this probably the best (but we're still to visit the Saddleworth area tomorrow) made by relative newcomer Jack ("Lipase") today (well done, my son - though tbf he didn't know what it was). . . . we reckoned well over 100 years joint mycological experience but none of us had seen this before - the Red Data List Spathularia flavida (we did leave plenty in the field!):


and a scanned image - better to see the characters of this interesting fungus:


regulars will know my feelings about making up English names for fungi - as far as I can see the first British record of this was in 1791 (about a mile from where I am sitting, at Fixby Park in Huddersfield) by the great James Bolton of Halifax - he calls it Battledoor Helvella in his book, referring to the handle-and-racquet appearance - I think that should be its official name . . . . "yellow fan"- I ask you

tomorrow a fungus from New Zealand found near Wakefield . . . . .

Chris

PS I promise this thread will be a bolete-free zone

[Chris Yeates]

a PS to the above -

it was under larch - probably Larix x marschlinsii

Chris

[cybershot]

Nice find Chris. I can remember the excitement back in 2008 when the Minley Mushketeers found Spathularia flavida at Pamber Forest in Hampshire.



David

[FungiJohn]

Glad you all had a good time Chris

Hopefully Les and I can get over on another occasion .. it would be good to see how the other half of Yorkshire live It would have been good also to see Alan and Melanie too!

It's very difficult fitting in forays that everyone would like to attend. So little time and so many places one would like to visit. I supose it is fortunate that the 'season' tends to spread out more now OR is that just me with probably too much time on my hands

John

[Chris Yeates]

hi

this I'm posting because it links in with another post . . . . Local Fungi Walk

found on old Russula fruitbody (only time I look at them ) - this is Collybia cirrhata - identified, amongst other characters, by the absence of a sclerotium (as mentioned by Mal yesterday):


this is not from the current foray thread, but is included for comparison:

Collybia cookei
with its yellowish sclerotia; C. tuberosa has blackish sclerotia

because C. tuberosa is the type of the genus Collybia those agarics clearly not closely related to it - some of which I mentioned above - have had to be moved to other genera, although some in the UK seem to still hanging on to the old broad concept; Lennox, following Métrod, attempted to solve this conundrum by erecting the genus Microcollybia for these taxa, but that genus is considered a nomen nudum . . . .

cheers

Chris

more (including that NZ fungus, I promise) to follow

[Plonkloner]

Originally Posted by Chris Yeates

hi

this I'm posting because it links in with another post . . . . Local Fungi Walk

found on old Russula fruitbody (only time I look at them ) - this is Collybia cirrhata - identified, amongst other characters, by the absence of a sclerotium (as mentioned by Mal yesterday):


this is not from the current foray thread, but is included for comparison:

Collybia cookei
with its yellowish sclerotia; C. tuberosa has blackish sclerotia

because C. tuberosa is the type of the genus Collybia those agarics clearly not closely related to it - some of which I mentioned above - have had to be moved to other genera, although some in the UK seem to still hanging on to the old broad concept; Lennox, following Métrod, attempted to solve this conundrum by erecting the genus Microcollybia for these taxa, but that genus is considered a nomen nudum . . . .

cheers

Chris

more (including that NZ fungus, I promise) to follow

Thanks for your help chris,
can i ask some questions .
How do you know what they where growing on ?
and
would it be worth me picking some to get better photos ?

[Chris Yeates]

Originally Posted by Plonkloner

Thanks for your help chris,
can i ask some questions .
How do you know what they where growing on ?
and
would it be worth me picking some to get better photos ?

they usually do grow on old Russula and Lactarius fruit-bodies which can often just still be made out, but may then 'migrate' to immediately adjacent very rotten wood/leaf debris

if you do pick them then look very carefully for the possible sclerotia - which you can see clearly in the second photo

I often bring collections back home for more careful examination and photography - as I am keeping a record of Yorkshire fungi for the future and would like images that help confirm id's - I may also take a habitat shot, but they are often not so helpful for identification (as you can see from some of the posts on WAB); it's no accident that the Roger Phillips book consists of studio shots - you have much better control over showing the important characters, colour etc. than you do in the field

plus I do a lot of photography down my microscopes as well - so I have to bring material back anyway; I stopped taking books out into the field years ago - if it's unfamiliar I take it home to have a really good look at all the characters

cheers

Chris

[lipase]

Originally Posted by Chris Yeates

I stopped taking books out into the field years ago - if it's unfamiliar I take it home to have a really good look at all the characters

cheers

Chris

I hope I'm focussed enough to get to that stage one day!

[SheffieldLass]

Originally Posted by lipase

I hope I'm focussed enough to get to that stage one day!

Nothing to stop you taking fungi home with you from day 1 to get a really good look at the characters Anyway, you seemed pretty focussed when you were on the foray, especially in the vicinity of Spathularia flavida . Luckily you were there or we would have missed it.

Melanie

[RobSutton]

Would have liked to come on this one but was away in the Outer Hebrides at the time - maybe next time.