Russula and Egghead Mottlegill ??

[godders]

I think this is Egghead Mottlegill - Panaeolus semiovatus, growing out of Horse dung ?



A kind of Russula ??
Growing in grass, with Oak trees nearby, many present this one was approx 4 to 5 inches tall. No ring on stipe, could not detect ant sort of smell, gills were pale creamy white.



Any help in ID would be greatly appreciated, I'm a complete novice at ID ing,

regards Nick

[Lancashire Lad]

Originally Posted by godders

.... I'm a complete novice at ID ing, ....

Hi Nick,

I've been looking at fungi for about two years, and I'm still a complete novice. , so don't take this as read.

Your first does look somewhat different to the P.semiovatus that I've been seeing, in that it is much "creamier" in colour, and quite tall & spindly in relation to its cap size. I've never seen one with the out-turned margin, and the ring seems much lower than I've seen on these.
Having said that, there does appear to be some evidence of black spores on the stipe just below the cap, and I can't think of any better possibility, so I assume that it is within the range of variability for that species.

Your second look like a fairly short Amanita fulva - Tawny Grisette. (It looks too light in colour for A.vaginata, and doesn't look orange enough to me for A.crocea). I suspect there would have been additional stipe length, hidden by the grass or actually within the substrate, and there would have been the very recognisable "volva" at the stipe base.

Regards,
Mike.

[NickCantle]

Originally Posted by Lancashire Lad

Your second look like a fairly short Amanita fulva - Tawny Grisette. (It looks too light in colour for A.vaginata, and doesn't look orange enough to me for A.crocea). I suspect there would have been additional stipe length, hidden by the grass or actually within the substrate, and there would have been the very recognisable "volva" at the stipe base.

I'd say you're spot on there Mike.

[Chris Yeates]

Originally Posted by godders

I think this is . . . . Panaeolus semiovatus, growing out of Horse dung ?




Any help in ID would be greatly appreciated, I'm a complete novice at ID ing,

regards Nick

hi

your fungus bears a strong resemblance to the illustration in J.E. Lange's splendid 2-volume Flora Agaricina Danica (1935) plate 142E, where he calls it Stropharia separata var. minor - it's really been around the block nomenclature-wise has this fungus:
Species Fungorum - Species synonymy

but as you can see it is indeed now considered just part of the variation within Panaeolus semiovatus var. semiovatus

cheers

Chris