Possibly amanita pantherina?

[jonbem]

Is this Amanita Pantherina? Path fringe in edge of pine plantation.

with pocket knife for scale



thanks
Jon

[FungiJohn]

Hi Jon

I think this may be Amanita citrina

John

[cowshill]

Oh heck, I might as well jump in and get shot down again! John, given (as far as I can see) no ring and the striations on the cap edge, I think a. citrina is ruled out. I'd say either a. vaginata or a. submembranacea. I used to think I could tell them apart, but I grow less sure as time goes by.

- Jim

[NickCantle]

Originally Posted by cowshill

Oh heck, I might as well jump in and get shot down again! John, given (as far as I can see) no ring and the striations on the cap edge, I think a. citrina is ruled out. I'd say either a. vaginata or a. submembranacea. I used to think I could tell them apart, but I grow less sure as time goes by.

- Jim

I agree with you Jim.

Striations on the cap and lack of ring certainly point to A. vaginata and the complex surrounding it

(...and don't worry about John, I can vouch having met him a couple of times that he's a top man and would never shoot you down for a suggestion! )

[jonbem]

the lack of ring but with the scaly top had me confused for sure
I'll try ot cross ref. through my books
thanks for the replies

Jon

[NickCantle]

I think as Jim said, A. submembranacea is a great place to start

[FungiJohn]

Originally Posted by cowshill

Oh heck, I might as well jump in and get shot down again! John, given (as far as I can see) no ring and the striations on the cap edge, I think a. citrina is ruled out. I'd say either a. vaginata or a. submembranacea. I used to think I could tell them apart, but I grow less sure as time goes by.

- Jim

Quite right too Jim

John

[cowshill]

Jon,

Regarding the scaly top, these are much more varied than, say a. muscaria or a. pantherina, which I believe nearly always have speckles of veil on the cap. The vaginata complex (as Nick refers to it) may emerge from the egg speckled, as in your find, or with one or two much larger pieces of veil on the cap, or completely clean. Actually, I think the completely clean is the more common way.

- Jim

[jonbem]

Jim
thanks for that. Most of the images I find are either clean or with larger veil pieces. I thought mine was quite uniform with its speckle scales.

Jon

[Andy Overall]

Originally Posted by jonbem

Is this Amanita Pantherina? Path fringe in edge of pine plantation.

with pocket knife for scale



thanks
Jon

Hi Jon,

I have to disagree with everyone else and say Amanita ceciliae. The large patches left on the dingy brown cap are a good indicator of this species. The other vaginata species tend not to do this. You didn't happen to notice whether the flesh greyed at all upon handling? Amanita ceciliae.

Andy