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28-08-2010, 09:05 AM
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| | cystoderma? and myxo's help with these three much appreciated please.
Slime mould on rotting old stump - Arcyria incarnata or denudata? 
mould on stem of meadowsweet 
and this in mixed woodland, spore print white, scaly sort of stem below clear ring mark, adnate ish white/cream gills, no unusual smell, cap about 4'' across - Cystoderma spp? 
Cheers
Ken | 
28-08-2010, 11:14 AM
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| | | Re: cystoderma? and myxo's Hi Ken,
The last one (providing the top of the cap is orange/tan) looks more like Amanita fulva. Cystoderma amianthinum is a very small species, usually no larger than 2-3 inches tall.
Nick | 
28-08-2010, 11:50 AM
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| | | Re: cystoderma? and myxo's Quote:
Originally Posted by NickCantle Hi Ken,
The last one (providing the top of the cap is orange/tan) looks more like Amanita fulva. Cystoderma amianthinum is a very small species, usually no larger than 2-3 inches tall.
Nick  | Hi Nick, how the devil are you? - long time no see!  
Amanita was my first guess, but , as ever, I talked myself out of it - yes, it was a tan cap and it all fits beautifully into A. fulva.
Dope I am.
Thanks a lot, thats grand.
Ken
Now for the myxo's................... | 
28-08-2010, 08:33 PM
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| | | Re: cystoderma? and myxo's 
I strongly suspect denudata: the trick is to blow across the fruitbodies (doesn't need to be excessive) if the capillitium (network) blows away easily it's incarnata; otherwise denudata
mould on stem of meadowsweet Podosphaera spiraeae : used to be called Sphaerotheca spiraeae - this heavy infection, often stunting the upper parts of the plants, is very typical - you can see the dark cleistothecia (which will contain the asci and their spores) developing - this could have gone on the plant parasites sticky
cheers
Chris
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28-08-2010, 09:10 PM
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| | | Re: cystoderma? and myxo's Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris Yeates mould on stem of meadowsweet Podosphaera spiraeae : used to be called Sphaerotheca spiraeae - this heavy infection, often stunting the upper parts of the plants, is very typical - you can see the dark cleistothecia (which will contain the asci and their spores) developing - this could have gone on the plant parasites sticky
cheers
Chris | Was this what we were supposed to be looking for on the meadowsweet in Dalby Forest?
Melanie | 
28-08-2010, 11:58 PM
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| | | Re: cystoderma? and myxo's Quote:
Originally Posted by SheffieldLass Was this what we were supposed to be looking for on the meadowsweet in Dalby Forest?
Melanie | No - this is a very common fungus: the one I was keen to re-find was a smut, which galls the petioles - at the points of infection black spore masses erupt (if you look carefully you can see that there is also infection by the fairly common rust fungus Triphragmium ulmariae (orange spots) ( *)
this is what it looks like:
and this is the national distribution: NBN Gateway: Urocystis filipendulae grid map
you have to mentally add dots for Wiltshire, Forfar and Dalby (I'm not sure why the latter doesn't feature, but we're in the process of tightening up the Yorkshire records on FRDBI, so it'll get sorted), but that is the sum of current records - which was why I was keen to find it again - I'd like to get some images of the spores
( *) Fungal Plant Parasites
cheers
Chris
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Last edited by Chris Yeates; 29-08-2010 at 12:03 AM.
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29-08-2010, 10:42 AM
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| | | Re: cystoderma? and myxo's Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris Yeates 
I strongly suspect denudata: the trick is to blow across the fruitbodies (doesn't need to be excessive) if the capillitium (network) blows away easily it's incarnata; otherwise denudata
mould on stem of meadowsweet Podosphaera spiraeae : used to be called Sphaerotheca spiraeae - this heavy infection, often stunting the upper parts of the plants, is very typical - you can see the dark cleistothecia (which will contain the asci and their spores) developing - this could have gone on the plant parasites sticky
cheers
Chris | Thanks Chris,
so denudata blows away less easily than incarnata, I'll have to remember that - its opposite of what you would expect, with the name denudata and all that................!!!
I still have a fragment of the wood, so I'll see if they are still showing to try the test.
Podosphaera spiraeae is another new one for me, common or not, so quite pleased with that too on my voyage of discovery.  
cheers
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