Some help with ID appreciated!

[albannach]

Hi, I've always admired fungi in my locality and while out on my woodland walks, and this year decided to get more serious and learn some names.

I have replaced by 1982 Collins Gem Fungi guide with artists drawings with some more usable photographic guides, and I am just beginning to learn the names, so please bear with tihs newbie!

I can't seem to get images here, so forgive the URLs:

These are some fungi I found today:

http://www.wildaboutbritain.co.uk/ar...0214-45617.JPG

I know these are boletus, but I've had trouble narrowing it down based on book illustrations. Is it Bay Boletus?

http://www.wildaboutbritain.co.uk/ar...0214-27056.JPG

and I was wondering what these were:

http://www.wildaboutbritain.co.uk/ar...0214-45561.JPG

http://www.wildaboutbritain.co.uk/ar...0214-45624.JPG

I take it these are all forms of Panther cap?

http://www.wildaboutbritain.co.uk/ar...0214-45627.JPG

Many thanks in advance!

PS I can't find a FAQ about how to post images, so any help appreciated!

[Chris Yeates]

crikey!

you don't under-collect do you?

just sounding a wee conservationist note here - not quite sure why one needs to collect Amanita muscaria actually - is it just to show how much you have found? - that extends to a lot of the rest: it's not a competition

unfortunately looking at pictures in books - no matter how good those books are - will always prove problematical; this is evinced by the number of posts on here of quite common species which posters will say "this doesn't look like anything in any of my books" - they're not wrong, fungi are just very variable and you need years of practice (and then we still make mistakes!)

the bay boletus isn't- could be old B. edulis, nor is the Amanita pantherina - which is Amanita rubescens; the second from last is Amanita fulva

cheers

Chris

oh and welcome to WAB - doubtless others will talk you through posting images - it's fairly straightforward though

[NickCantle]

Could the second image down be B. luridus? Check those pores out!

Third image down shows four Agaricus.

Fourth shows a Russula and A. fulva.

Last, as Chris has said shows various specimens of Amanita rubescens!

Nick

[albannach]

Thanks for the welcome, guys!

Originally Posted by Chris Yeates

crikey!

you don't under-collect do you?

just sounding a wee conservationist note here - not quite sure why one needs to collect Amanita muscaria actually - is it just to show how much you have found? - that extends to a lot of the rest: it's not a competition

I was thinking that, too, when I got home! First time I have actually collected, with a view to examining them at home, Hitherto, I've just photographed them. I'll be bette rin future!

Originally Posted by NickCantle

Could the second image down be B. luridus?

I wonder if the large Boletus is in fact B chysenteron (Red Cracking Boletus).

But maybe you're right, I'm confused.

Originally Posted by NickCantle

Last, as Chris has said shows various specimens of Amanita rubescens!

Nick

Show I have a lot to learn, as I thought there were more link Panthercaps, as the stems were white, and the cap resembled thepic in the book more!

I am trying to see why I was wrong - looking at the base - is that one of the reasons?

I was confused also because the book said a large floppy ring and my specimens don't have that.

Can I test your patience with me here too?

Obviously amanita muscaria, on the left, and I am presuming Russula emetica on the right?

But the one second from the left, is that just a paler version of the emetica?

Thanks in advance!

PS. Hopefully I'll find out how to do the photos. I managed to upload them here, but can't seem to see how to include them in a post, as the Gallery images button on the right doesn't seem to work for me! I have upladed images, then when I click on it, it tell me I don't have any images uploaded.

[flaxton]

Originally Posted by albannach

Thanks for the welcome, guys!





I wonder if the large Boletus is in fact B chysenteron (Red Cracking Boletus).

But maybe you're right, I'm confused.

.

Nick is right on this one it is Boletus luridiformis which has yellow gills only when very very young. They then turn red (blue when damaged) and finally this orangey colour. They are also much bigger than B chrysenteron. (which has yellow gills turning greenish)

Mal

[Lancashire Lad]

Hi albannach, and welcome to WAB.

Have a read of this: -

http://www.wildaboutbritain.co.uk/fo...tml#post667490

It may be of some help for copying your photos into your posts.

Regards,
Mike.

[alge]

Hello, if you go to the search topic box just above the forum index and put in uploading photos you will find loads of advise (mostly from lancashire lad). A condensed version would be. Make sure your images are a jpeg, save them to a width of 1200 px for landscape orientation or 1200 px height on portrait. That tends to work, most of us have issues early on with that.

to avoid over collection take your photos of the fungi in situ and take just one or two home for a more detailed study. often details about habitat arise from the "in situ" shots and its staggering how often this leads to an interesting debate or revelation.

With regards to your Amanita rubescens the reddening at the base is a clue.

Alge

And there you go.

[cowshill]

Originally Posted by albannach

Show I have a lot to learn, as I thought there were more link Panthercaps, as the stems were white, and the cap resembled thepic in the book more!
I am trying to see why I was wrong - looking at the base - is that one of the reasons?
I was confused also because the book said a large floppy ring and my specimens don't have that.

Hi, albannach,

As many members will remember with some humour from last year, I know my A. rubescens, and your amanitas are defitely A. rubescens and not A. pantherina for several reasons.

1. Cap colour. This is the typical colour of rubescens. Pantherina is a much more definite brown.
2. Stem. As you suggested, the stem is typical shape and colour of rubescens. Pantherina is much purer white, especially when young.
3. Overall look. They just look like rubescens - something you will become familiar with over time.
4. Frequency. While not specifically diagnostic, it is a fact that rubescens are common and pantherina are rare. I haven't noticed anyone posting finding pantherina yet this season. I think if you had found this many of them it would be celebratory event! (I have never found a pantherina, so everything I say about them is my understanding from books, not personal experience!)

Additional diagnostic distinctions not obvious from your photo include:

1. Ring. Your finds do have rings, most noticeably the one on the far right. "Floppy" means it's hanging down against the stem, not sticking out horizontally. On close examination rubescens' ring is vertically striated, while patherina's is smooth. This the one absolute visual distinction between the two if the ID is otherwise uncertain.
2. Red bruising. Rubescens' flesh stains pink/red when bruised. This takes several hours to develop, so is not immediately obvious. Slug holes in the cap (very common) will have a definite pink tinge. This is why it's called the Blusher. Pantherina, by comparison, stays white.

- Jim

[Andy Overall]

Originally Posted by NickCantle

Could the second image down be B. luridus? Check those pores out!

Third image down shows four Agaricus.

Fourth shows a Russula and A. fulva.

Last, as Chris has said shows various specimens of Amanita rubescens!

Nick

I'm not so sure about this being one of the red pored Boletes but more a mature B. impolitus or B. appendiculatus with the discolouring of the pores coming from age. There is absolutely no red dots or red at all to suggest B. luridiformis.

Andy

[albannach]

OK, I think I have worked out the image posting!

Here's the Boletus in situ:



Here's close up:





Here's the A rubiscens in situ:



Near the aformentioned Boletus was this, which I also assumed was an A. pantheris.

Is this another rubescens?




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