Amanita ??? solitary in mixed woodland

[ohgreatstew]

Today’s find is what I believe to be amanita, not sure of the exact ID, but closest I can find are amanita gemmata, or possibly amanita rubescens although I am not convinced about this one, this was found beside a path on it's own in mixed woodland, cap has a gold tinge to it, and the warts have a green tinge, which also made me think of solitary amanita, but again having looks at all my books and the web my best guess is gemmata......


Gills are pure white adnate but not joined to the stem, quite brittle but do not bleed, flesh does not stain when cut or bruised, stem is bulbous with clear annulus, edges of cap also show remains of annulus. spore print is on the way will update with results later.......

Many thanks as always, Stewart

[NickCantle]

It looks to me like Amanita strobiliformis mate I created a thread on it a while ago, I'll ty and dig it out so you can have a look at my specimens! I recently found some more too so I'll upload those.

The only other one that it may bear resemblance to is A. gemmata but it's way too big, not yellow enough and it's in the wrong habitat!

Get back to ya' in a sec!

Nick

[NickCantle]

Here's the one I found recently, showing that yellow/green light tinge;



King of Amanitas

Ta, and hope that helps!

Nick

[mollisia]

Hello,

the fungus you show is surely Amanita strobiliformis.

Its gills are NOT free, btw., and this is very good to see on your foto. The gills are broken of the stem by manipulation or dryness, but one can see very clearly the gills remnants on the stipe. They have been adnexed to the stipe, and the gills being not free is acharacter or A. strobiliformis and A. solitaria.
Sadly most books about fungi do not mention this and many keys can not be used fot these two species, because Amanita is always keyed out by "gills free", what is not always true, even in other species like A. rubescens or A. spissa!

best regards,
Andreas

[ohgreatstew]

Thank you both, having taken a closer look a. strobiliformis does seem to be the one, my only slight confusion is still over the gills, Andreas, should I take it from you explanation that an assumption is made in most books that all amanita's have gills that are free despite that fact that some varieties clearly show gills that are not free, for people with such an amazing eye for detail this seems unlikely, or do I misunderstand what you mean?.... Otherwise it fits perfectly, and had I known it was rare I wouldn't have picked it.
Oh spore print was white btw......

Thanks again. Stewart

[ohgreatstew]

Nick just been looking at your thread 'King of Amanitas', now I see axactly what you mean, and that's one hell of a mushroom you have there, I also took a closer look at the warts on the cap of mine and it seems that the green tinge is actually mold and not a true characteristic...... Interesting what you say about habitat since mine was found on the south downs beside a path in really very mixed woodlands, I had another look today and the nearest beech I can find is a good 50m away, it is mostly surrounded by Oak, Ash and Hawthorn, but the closest of those is the hawthorn, thanks for your time, and knowledge, I am all the more pleased with my find now I know it's reputation.
Stewart

[NickCantle]

No problem! The sheer size of the fruitbody is generally enough to identify this one. The downs are chalk are they not? We have chalky soil here and I see A. strobiliformis lots. The picture of the species in Jordan's Encyclopedia was taken in my area too- so it's a bit of a hot spot for an uncommon giant.

[Ditiola]

Hi
I found a strange Amanita last autumn under Oak. The flesh was very solid. It looked like Amanita rubescens, but it did not blush red when cut in two and the veil remains on the cap were small, pointed and firmly attached. I tried to make it fit other species but failed so I assumed it was a none blushing A rubescens, but have left the photo labelled A. sp. Any views on this one.

Peter

[NickCantle]

If not A. rubescens, A. spissa perhaps? At least we can tell that it's not A. strobiliformis as it has a visible ribbed basal bulb