2 for id please

[ashgale]

no1 was found on a large fallen, very rotten beech log, size was approx 10mm across the cap and about the same in height, a solitary specimen,


no2 was found in a section of mixed woodland (conifers/sycamore/ beech)
my first thoughts were of Amanita virosa, but it did not appear to have the volval bag, even after a dig in the leaf mould, there was no sign of the volva,
also the yellow tinge does not seem right ?



any suggestions most welcome,
thanks,
ashgale.

[FungiJohn]

Hi Ashgale

Your first images I think are a little too young to ID ... well for me anyway

Your second species could be Limacella guttata but the ring doesn't look right.

Sorry, not much help I'm afraid

John

[ashgale]

Hi , John, thanks for that,
the first one is still the same size as when i first found it 3 or 4 days ago, so i dont think its going to get any larger, (or is it?)

no2 seems to fit A. virosa in most ways, but the missing volva seems to knock that idea in the head

ashgale.

[mollisia]

Hello,

the first one seems to be a Simocybe, which is just a guess with this foto and no determination of course.

the second one is Agaricus silvicola/essettii in my opinion. Better to think an Agaricus to be an Amanita then otherway round

best regards,
Andreas

[Andy Overall]

Originally Posted by ashgale

no1 was found on a large fallen, very rotten beech log, size was approx 10mm across the cap and about the same in height, a solitary specimen,


no2 was found in a section of mixed woodland (conifers/sycamore/ beech)
my first thoughts were of Amanita virosa, but it did not appear to have the volval bag, even after a dig in the leaf mould, there was no sign of the volva,
also the yellow tinge does not seem right ?



any suggestions most welcome,
thanks,
ashgale.

Your first image could well be Simocybe sumptuosa, a species that prefers dead Beech. The second I believe to be Agaricus silvicola. If you had collected then when scratched yuo should pick up the smell of almonds.

Andy

[mollisia]

Same minute, same opinion, same name ...

best regards,
Andreas

[FungiJohn]

Originally Posted by Andy Overall

Your first image could well be Simocybe sumptuosa, a species that prefers dead Beech. The second I believe to be Agaricus silvicola. If you had collected then when scratched yuo should pick up the smell of almonds.

Andy

Nice shouts Andy

Agaricus silvicola would stain yellow with KOH as well

John

[Andy Overall]

Originally Posted by mollisia

Same minute, same opinion, same name ...

best regards,
Andreas

Touche


Best

Andy

[ashgale]

many thanks, Andreas & andy,

re: the smell of almond, im afraid i did not get that close, thinking it was A. virosa i did not handle it to much,
still, there were one or two more coming up, so i can always go back for a better look,(although most times when i do that, they have usually dissapeared without trace!)

both species are new ones for me, so with all the others i found today,(including, what turned out to be a nice example of Megacollybia platphylla with its long root like mycelia) it was not a bad couple of hours out

much appreciated, thanks,
ashgale.

edit: thanks also to john !

[ashgale]

i managed to go back for another look, and got lucky for once, and found just this one remaining specimen, which had matured somewhat, (and full of maggots)



i had a good smell of it this time, but instead of an almond odour, it was more of an aniseed smell, which, according to phillips and jordans books is the odour A.silvicola should have,

it looks like you guys were spot on with the id (again )

thanks,
ashgale

ps; the small one on the log was still the same size,