ID please

gobbiner · #1 (**permalink**) 07-07-2010, 05:39 PM

Is this just a run of the mill mushroom thank you

solus · #2 (**permalink**) 07-07-2010, 06:02 PM

I'll leave it to someone more experienced to try and suggest an ID, but one thing I learned very rapidly on here is that there is no such thing as a "run of the mill mushroom"!!

On the whole they're complex little beggars and most need spore prints and microscopes to identify for certain.

flaxton · #3 (**permalink**) 07-07-2010, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by solus

On the whole they're complex little beggars and most need spore prints and microscopes to identify for certain.

And this one is no different

I think we would probably agree it is a Pluteus sp but which one? It looks to have the right colour cap for P salicinus but the stipe is too thick so not sure. Microscope anyone

Mal

gobbiner · #4 (**permalink**) 07-07-2010, 06:27 PM

I think this is a better photo i didnt tick keep aspect ratio on the first one

Stip · #5 (**permalink**) 08-07-2010, 09:34 PM

Hi,
my guess would be Entoloma somewhwere near clypeatum, was it growing with Rosaceae?
cheers Stip

flaxton · #6 (**permalink**) 09-07-2010, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Stip

Hi,
my guess would be Entoloma somewhwere near clypeatum, was it growing with Rosaceae?
cheers Stip

OK so we don't all agree on Pluteus

and yes it could be an Entoloma.
Microscopes at dawn.

Mal

Ps a belated welcome to WAB Stip

Ditiola · #7 (**permalink**) 09-07-2010, 05:52 PM

Gobbiner

If you are total confused, perhaps I ought to say that it is very difficult to identify most fungi from a photograph with no other data.

It is very easy to separate Pluteus and Entoloma with a microscope as Entoloma have angular shaped spores.

Pluteus mostly (but not always) grow on wood, but this can be buried. Their caps can often be easily removed but this is not always a clear cut distinction. Pluteus have gills that are not attached to the stem, whereas Entoloma usually have gills that are attached to the stem, but apparently in some species the can sometimes be free from the stem.

Peter

Stip · #8 (**permalink**) 09-07-2010, 09:46 PM

Thanks Mal,
i am curious what the microscope brings.

cheers
Stip

flaxton · #9 (**permalink**) 10-07-2010, 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Stip

Thanks Mal,
i am curious what the microscope brings.

cheers
Stip

A chance to id the specimen

Mal

flaxton · #10 (**permalink**) 10-07-2010, 10:44 AM

The spores of the two species are an instant identifying feature. Often the colour is different but in this case they are both shades of pink but an Entoloma spore (not specifically of the species we are talking about here)

and a Pluteus spore