A couple that i could do with a second opinion on pls.

[alge]

Both out at the moment but in different woods



This one is growing on the same spoil pile left over from felling a Fagus that i found Agrocybe rivulosa growing on last summer. The colour is less washed than the uploaded image, smell was a very evident mushroomy smell. No real stem but a stout black tap root (i'm not happy with the term root but cant do better off the top of my head), the closest i can get is Peziza cerea. I've never looked at cups before so any ideas welcomed.

These are i think jellies possibly young Auricularia auricula but they were among a dozen fruits and non of them were that big, so i was wondering if the second image represents a mature specimen and are something other than A.auricula??????


alex

[NickCantle]

Hiya Alex,

You're indeed in the correct area with the former. Growing on woodchip is a classic trait of a few Peziza species and similarly formed Helvella 'cups' would generally be found on soil.

The second is more likely to be Ciboria, though I must admit I did ponder over Dumontinia tuberosa but we can't really see enough of the surrounding habitat to further separate my rather vague suggestions. I'm not sure, having not actually seen the species in the flesh, if Dumontinia tuberosa forms a shallow plate-like fruit body before curling right up into a 'cup'. If Alder was present, I'd go for Ciboria because that's the only of the two aforementioned species I've mentioned I've actually seen!

Sorry that I've not really helped, I'm very rusty at the mo and just trying to worm my way back in!

Sorry for any confusion

Nick

[Leif]

As Nick says, the first one is a Peziza species, but you need microscopy for this one, as it is so irregular, it could easily be one of several species.

For the second one I sort of agree with Nick. I do not know what genus it is, but it might, just might, be a young Peziza badius. I have seen them like this, though it is unlikely. Or it might be Dumontinia tuberosa if there were Wood Anemone around, but I have never found them myself. A nice find if it is. I don't think it is Ciboria caucus/amentacea as the jiz is off.

[Leif]

By the way, roughly where aabouts did you see the second ones? I would like to photograph them if they are not too far from south Surrey.

[alge]

thanks fellas

Originally Posted by Leif

By the way, roughly where aabouts did you see the second ones? I would like to photograph them if they are not too far from south Surrey.

Fairly near Canterbury, I'd be happy to take you there its about half a mile from my house. Probably in the 1.5 to 2 hrs margin

I'm not sure about alder being present, there are a few handfuls of wood aneome around the area, what brought me to them was the first flowering blue bell that they were next too.

I can try to get some better shots for you if that helps or a sample?

[Chris Yeates]

hi

agree with Leif about the first one - Peziza cerea is usually found in and around buildings (I recorded it two places where I have lived in the past - and in the gent's loo at one of the sites where I work! - also on damp carpet in the boot of a colleague's car!!!)

I think the second one is fairly certainly Dumontinia tuberosa

cheers

Chris

[Leif]

Originally Posted by alge

thanks fellas



Fairly near Canterbury, I'd be happy to take you there its about half a mile from my house. Probably in the 1.5 to 2 hrs margin

I'm not sure about alder being present, there are a few handfuls of wood aneome around the area, what brought me to them was the first flowering blue bell that they were next too.

I can try to get some better shots for you if that helps or a sample?

Thanks for the kind offer. Sadly I had not realised that you are so far away from me! I thought I saw North Downs in your details, suggesting Dorking etc.