Go Back   Wild About Britain > British Wildlife > Fungi Forums

» February 2012

S M T W T F S
293031 1 2 3 4
5 6 7 8 9 10 11
12 13 14 15 16 17 18
19 20 21 22 23 24 25
26 27 28 29 123

» Stats

Members: 48,655
Threads: 78,890
Posts: 821,414
Top Poster: glsammy (14,779)
Welcome to our newest member, redfrag
Reply

 

LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 19-03-2010, 06:30 PM
New Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 8
from the Peak District to Slovakia

Ever felt a bit strange walking back through town with your basket? Funny looks on the bus?

For me, no longer! I've recently moved to Slovakia and from what I've heard from my students, it's pretty much a national passtime!

Roll on Morel season! I've been showing my students pictures during lessons. Apparently they hunt not only morels but also false morels. I'm informed that they can be parboiled and are something of a delicacy. Any thoughts?

I'm making my first journey into the woods tomorrow to see what's about. I'm hoping for at least an artists conch with which to decorate my new room.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 19-03-2010, 07:19 PM
Lancashire Lad's Avatar
Knight Commander of the Wild Empire
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Red Rose County
Posts: 5,070
Re: from the Peak District to Slovakia

Hi Patrick,

It's WAB policy not to make comment on the edibility or otherwise, of fungi: -

Is my fungus edible or psychotic requests

Regards,
Mike.
__________________
Common sense is not so common.

Lancashire Lad's Gallery
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 19-03-2010, 08:59 PM
Commander of the Wild Empire
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Near Scarborough
Posts: 2,048
Re: from the Peak District to Slovakia

I'm not sure whether your post comes under the edibility rules or not, but I will refer you to 2 old WAB threads which you might find interesting. Probably covers the basic points about False Morels. They are discussions about edibility/poisonous ones rather than asking whether a particular fungus with picture attached is edible.

Toxicity of Mycena Pura - Lilac Bonnet

Contradictory Fungi books?

What is also interesting is that if you do a google search on WAB for False Morel, most come up referring to Gyromitra esculenta, but one calls Helvella crispa False Morel too, so I think the moral of the story is, that discussions of edibility or otherwise can become very confused, particularly if the same common names are used for more than one species. Or where nations/books views on the edibility or otherwise of a particular species are contradictory. And probably why WAB has this rule, to protect its own backside if someone gets wrong information off WAB, in terms of incorrect id or incorrect information on edibility.

Anyway, enjoy your time in Slovakia, and learn as much from the people there, but do double check their knowledge too ... often it is handed down through the generations and can be quite suspect .... A local guy to me, whose father came from Poland (I think, or possibly Czechoslovakia), was really into fungi, very good at id, had studied the books as well as learning from his Dad, and was saying how many of his father's and grandfather's 'rules' on fungi, on which were and were not edible were extremely dodgy! Would rule in some that were really poisonous.

Melanie
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 19-03-2010, 10:35 PM
Chris Yeates's Avatar
Commander of the Wild Empire
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Huddersfield, West Yorkshire
Posts: 3,457
Re: from the Peak District to Slovakia

when I lived in Leeds, with its sizeable Polish community, one often came across people out collecting - this was at the time when most Brit's wouldn't have dreamt of doing anything of the sort

I remember one elderly chap (who had obviously survived) carrying a very mixed basket-full with all sorts of indeterminate stuff in it . . . . he held up one agaric which would probably take an evening at the 'scope to work out and pronounced:

"Dem's good - brown 'uns"



Chris
__________________
"You must know it's right - The spore is on the wind tonight"
--Steely Dan, "Rose Darling"
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 19-03-2010, 10:44 PM
FungiJohn's Avatar
Knight of the Wild Empire
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Sheffield
Posts: 8,627
Re: from the Peak District to Slovakia

Quote:
Originally Posted by SheffieldLass View Post
They are discussions about edibility/poisonous ones rather than asking whether a particular fungus with picture attached is edible.

Melanie
And discussions are absolutely fine! No problem.

It is the post ‘asking whether a particular fungus with picture attached is edible etc’ where we have to strongly apply the rule.

Yes, enjoy your time in Slovakia Patrick and welcome to WAB btw

John
__________________
My WAB Gallery.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 19-03-2010, 11:07 PM
Frozen
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Hindhead
Posts: 1,104
Re: from the Peak District to Slovakia

If you do some reading you will discover that the False Morel is of questionable edibility, and when raw is undoubtedly deadly poisonous. Even the cooking fumes are toxic if inhaled. It might be edible when cooked, but some experts suspect that the toxins are cumulative, so surviving one meal is no guarantee that it was okay. There is evidence that toxicity of American specimens varies according to the region, so that might be true in Europe too.

My only advice would be to take care. It is not uncommon in Eastern Europe for people to be posioned and even killed by eating fungi.

I am not much of a mycophagist, but I must admit that true morels are well tasty. I have eaten them in noodle soups, and the flavour and texture are very good, unlike many fungi, which are often overrated. But I tend not to pick them as they are rare where I live. (Oh dear, I can see in the distance a dust cloud, indicating FJ rapidly approaching with tales of collecting baskets of morels. It happens very year. I feel a green sensation coming on. )
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old 19-03-2010, 11:29 PM
FungiJohn's Avatar
Knight of the Wild Empire
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Sheffield
Posts: 8,627
Re: from the Peak District to Slovakia

Quote:
Originally Posted by Leif View Post
I am not much of a mycophagist, but I must admit that true morels are well tasty. I have eaten them in noodle soups, and the flavour and texture are very good, unlike many fungi, which are often overrated. But I tend not to pick them as they are rare where I live. (Oh dear, I can see in the distance a dust cloud, indicating FJ rapidly approaching with tales of collecting baskets of morels. It happens very year. I feel a green sensation coming on. )
Who, me
__________________
My WAB Gallery.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old 20-03-2010, 11:02 AM
New Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 8
Re: from the Peak District to Slovakia

Thanks for all the responses, It's triggered me into doing a little more research, unfortunately all my books are back home so I've been looking for some useful stuff online to supplement your responses.

On reflection I think I'll hold out for a good year on the true Morels. Last year was a total wash out. I don't have any spots yet and after weeks of wandering around, the White Peak failed me. Perhaps the Carpathians will be kinder to me.

As regards not discussing the edibility of named species in this forum. That would be a silly misapplication of a sensible rule, surely? We seem to have come to that conclusion anyway.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Reply  

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads

Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
visit to the peak district seamusagleann British Birds 12 15-03-2009 12:40 AM
Peak District raptors ChrisJB British Birds 6 03-01-2009 11:25 AM
Dippers at Padley Gorge, Grindleford, Peak District? riggy British Birds 20 07-12-2008 05:46 PM
Peak District Bird Rescue Centre blancy British Birds 6 15-08-2008 01:45 PM
Black Grouse in the Peak District ChrisJB British Birds 1 18-02-2008 08:47 PM

» Log in

User Name:

Password:

Not a member yet?
Register Now!

» New Wildlife Posts

Go to first new post A spider I find regularly
Last post by redfrag
Today 10:37 PM
0 Replies, 1 Views
Go to first new post Is this a Grisette ??
Last post by Wood Wanderer
Today 10:31 PM
4 Replies, 6 Views
Go to first new post Singles and Doubles
Last post by loripo
Today 10:29 PM
3 Replies, 54 Views
Go to first new post Scrub Clearance and the...
Last post by fairplay
Today 10:25 PM
2 Replies, 45 Views
Go to first new post My only Birdie while...
Last post by Dogghound
Today 10:01 PM
6 Replies, 143 Views
Go to first new post Kestral v Magpie
Last post by actionfinch
Today 10:00 PM
0 Replies, 1 Views
Go to first new post Unidentified fungi -...
Last post by waxcap
Today 09:56 PM
7 Replies, 131 Views
frogs happy again
Last post by jaelen
Today 09:50 PM
1 Replies, 15 Views

» New Environment Posts

Go to first new post Bang Goes The Theory
Last post by Brocakat
Today 02:26 PM
48 Replies, 1,736 Views
Go to first new post Is Man the climax...
Last post by waxcap
Today 01:24 PM
93 Replies, 1,813 Views
Go to first new post WIND POWER. Is it time...
Last post by Dorts
Yesterday 09:41 PM
141 Replies, 4,937 Views
Go to first new post MP rants against 'career...
Last post by eeyore
Yesterday 09:10 PM
10 Replies, 249 Views

» New Activity Posts

Go to first new post LaCie Electron 19 Blue...
Last post by DavyG
Today 10:17 PM
0 Replies, 1 Views
Go to first new post what camera package to...
Last post by pressld2
Today 09:35 PM
12 Replies, 128 Views
Go to first new post Wow factor..how to get...
Last post by Kayleigh
Today 09:24 PM
86 Replies, 1,674 Views
Go to first new post Osprey Hide in the making
Last post by speyghillie
Today 09:09 PM
52 Replies, 1,355 Views

» New Community Posts

Go to first new post Please support Vale...
Last post by Hedgehoggy
Today 10:30 PM
17 Replies, 274 Views
Go to first new post Bees.butterflies and...
Last post by artdemole
Today 03:33 PM
7 Replies, 233 Views
Go to first new post Putting permanent links...
Last post by ChrisJB
Today 01:43 PM
2 Replies, 63 Views
Go to first new post Wabbers on Twitter
Last post by austin402
Today 12:04 PM
48 Replies, 2,590 Views

All times are GMT. The time now is 10:51 PM.


Copyright Wild About Britain 2009

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 170 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 179 180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 189 190 191 192 193 194 195 196 197 198 199 200 201 202 203 204 205 206 207 208 209 210 211 212 213 214 215 216 217 218 219 220 221 222 223 224 225 226 227 228 229 230 231 232 233 234 235 236 237 238 239 240 241 242 243 244 245 246 247 248 249 250 251 252 253 254 255 256 257 258 259 260 261 262 263 264 265 266 267 268 269 270 271 272 273 274 275 276 277 278 279 280 281 282 283 284 285 286 287 288 289 290 291 292 293 294 295 296 297 298 299 300 301 302 303 304 305 306 307 308 309 310 311 312 313 314 315 316 317 318 319 320 321 322 323 324 325 326 327 328 329 330 331 332 333 334 335 336 337 338 339 340 341 342 343 344 345 346 347 348 349 350 351 352 353 354 355 356 357 358 359 360 361 362 363 364 365 366 367 368 369 370 371 372 373 374 375 376 377 378 379 380 381 382 383 384 385 386 387 388 389 390 391 392 393 394 395 396 397 398 399 400 401 402 403 404 405 406 407 408 409 410 411 412 413 414 415 416 417 418 419 420 421 422 423 424 425 426 427 428 429 430 431 432 433 434 435 436 437 438 439 440 441 442 443 444 445 446 447 448 449 450 451 452 453 454 455 456 457 458 459 460 461 462 463 464 465 466 467 468 469 470 471 472 473 474 475 476 477 478 479 480 481 482 483 484 485 486 487 488 489 490 491 492 493 494 495 496 497 498 499 500 501 502 503 504 505 506 507 508 509 510 511 512 513 514 515 516 517 518 519 520 521 522 523 524 525 526 527 528 529 530 531 532 533 534 535 536 537 538 539 540 541 542 543 544 545 546 547 548 549 550 551 552 553 554 555 556 557 558 559 560 561 562 563 564 565 566 567 568 569 570 571 572 573 574 575 576 577 578 579 580 581 582 583 584 585 586 587 588 589 590 591 592 593 594 595 596 597 598 599 600 601 602 603 604 605 606 607 608 609 610 611 612 613 614 615 616 617 618 619 620 621 622 623 624 625 626 627 628 629 630 631 632 633 634 635 636 637 638 639 640 641 642 643 644 645 646 647 648 649 650 651 652 653 654 655 656 657 658 659 660 661 662 663 664 665 666 667 668 669 670 671 672 673 674 675 676 677 678 679 680 681 682 683 684 685 686 687 688 689 690 691 692 693 694 695 696 697 698 699 700 701 702 703 704 705 706 707 708 709 710 711 712 713 714 715 716 717 718 719 720 721 722 723 724 725 726 727 728 729 730 731 732 733 734 735 736 737 738 739 740 741 742 743 744 745 746 747 748 749 750 751 752 753 754 755 756 757 758 759 760 761 762 763 764 765 766 767 768 769 770 771 772 773 774 775 776 777 778 779 780 781 782 783 784 785 786 787 788 789 790 791 792 793 794 795 796 797 798 799 800 801 802 803 804 805 806 807 808 809 810 811 812 813 814 815 816 817 818 819 820 821 822 823 824 825 826 827 828 829 830 831 832 833 834 835 836 837 838 839 840 841 842 843 844 845 846 847 848 849 850 851 852 853 854 855 856 857 858 859 860 861 862 863 864 865 866 867 868 869 870 871 872 873 874 875 876 877 878 879 880 881 882 883 884 885 886 887 888 889 890 891 892 893 894 895 896 897 898 899 900 901 902 903 904 905 906 907 908 909 910 911 912 913 914 915 916 917 918 919 920 921 922 923 924 925 926 927 928 929 930 931 932 933 934 935 936 937 938 939 940 941 942 943 944 945 946 947 948 949 950 951 952 953 954 955 956 957 958 959 960 961 962 963 964 965 966 967 968 969 970 971 972 973 974 975 976 977 978 979 980 981 982 983 984 985 986 987 988 989 990 991 992 993 994 995 996 997 998 999 1000 1001 1002 1003 1004 1005 1006 1007 1008 1009 1010 1011 1012 1013 1014 1015 1016 1017 1018 1019 1020 1021 1022 1023 1024 1025 1026 1027 1028 1029 1030 1031 1032 1033 1034 1035 1036 1037 1038 1039 1040 1041 1042 1043 1044 1045 1046 1047 1048 1049 1050 1051 1052 1053 1054 1055 1056 1057 1058 1059 1060 1061 1062 1063 1064 1065 1066 1067 1068 1069 1070 1071 1072 1073 1074 1075