Bracket Fungi IDs please?

[Johnny M]

Hi Everyone. I'm new here so apologies for crashing in with an ID request straight away. I'm also new to fungi too, so these may be obvious but I'm curious about the two attached images. Both in Hampshire recently and both in deciduous woodland. First on a dead Birch, second (I think) on Birch but a healthy tree.

Fascinating forum. Thanks in advance.

JM

[diggleken]

Hi JM, welcome to WAB!
The first looks like its probably turkeytail trametes versicolor, although the margin is usually a lighter colour, so not completely happy, - the 2nd is birch polypore, piptoporus betulinus.
Cheers
Ken

[Lancashire Lad]

Certainly Piptoporus betulinus for the second.

My first thoughts were that No.1 looked like Daedalea quercina. However, that wouldn't be on Birch.

If it was indeed Birch, It could be Lenzites betulinus, but there doesn't seem to be any sign of "downyness" on the bracket's surface, and the dark margin is also throwing me.

Time to wait for someone with more experience I think.

Regards,
Mike.

[Johnny M]

Thanks Ken, much appreciated.

I agree with your caution on the Turkey Tail ID. I hadn't considered it due to the density of the specimen. These were about 3cm or more in depth (top to bottom). I wasn't sure but this looked too 'dense' based upon images I have seen of Turkey Tail, and the margins were very definitely a blue-black colour.

Thanks again for your ID of the other.

[gleditsa]

no 1 looks more like Daedaleopsis confragosa to me, its very much like the ones i find on birch,

j.

[fairplay]

Originally Posted by gleditsa

no 1 looks more like Daedaleopsis confragosa to me, its very much like the ones i find on birch,

j.

Normally I would go straight in and say exactly the same, but the more I look at this the more flashbacks I get of other brackets, in particular an old Fomitopsis pinicola, but this is nowhere near thick enough and the colour is wrong, so I guess D.confragosa it must be.

Neil.

[Johnny M]

Thanks to Mike, J., and Neil for advice here.

I'm struck by what Neil says about it possibly being an old Fomitopsis pinicola. This specimen was found well off the beaten track in dense New Forest woodland, and the tree on which it had formed was across a gutter/stream heavily coloured with iron deposits.

Thanks again
JM

[diggleken]

Silly me, yes indeed Blushing Bracket!
Cheers
Blushing Ken

[fairplay]

Originally Posted by Johnny M

Thanks to Mike, J., and Neil for advice here.

I'm struck by what Neil says about it possibly being an old Fomitopsis pinicola. This specimen was found well off the beaten track in dense New Forest woodland, and the tree on which it had formed was across a gutter/stream heavily coloured with iron deposits.

Thanks again
JM

The Iron deposits in the water may account for this Daedaleopsis being such a dark colour in places.
Neil.

[gleditsa]

i don't know if its true for the rest of the country,
but the Daedaleopsis confragosa i find on birch are usually much paler than ones found on other tree species, and the red colour never seems to develop as deeply on birch either,