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03-02-2010, 04:42 AM
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| | | Frilly capped Fungi anyone? Now I'm not to keen on getting my fingers burnt again but by now you know me well for a supplying a ridiculously small amount of detail to go along with the picture of my unidentified species!
So all I can tell you about this is what you see is what you get.
This mushroom was quite small the diameter of the cap being about 2cms
It was growing in two spots as an individual, not part of a group and the height of it was roughly 4/5cms max. Of course needless to say it was in the mountainous forests of Japan.
The size musn't be compared with the size of the Oak leaf there as these particular Oak leaves are much larger than those of a similar spp. in Britain.
Also to help as best I can 
I've included two pics one where the cap has a slightly more conical appearance. The cap looks a little glossy but was'nt sticky.
Sorry no Gill shots.. | 
03-02-2010, 06:44 AM
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| | | Re: Frilly capped Fungi anyone? Hello,
difficult to say, but I feel that this should be a Psathyrella species. If you compare it with pictures of european Psathyrella species around the group of P. pennata or P. artemisiae, your fungus might belong in this group.
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03-02-2010, 07:13 AM
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| | | Re: Frilly capped Fungi anyone? Many thanks again Andreas for pointing me in the right direction, you certainly have a good eye and a wealth of knowledge on the subject.
My recent find points me to P.rostellata but it seems quite hard to find much more info or images on this. It seems to be suggested it grows in Czech rep. and Slovakia regarding Europe and the images I have found seem to have been taken in Scandinavia where it's known as Spånspröding. Fungus Gallery :: Psathyrella :: MINA1579 | 
03-02-2010, 07:29 AM
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| | | Re: Frilly capped Fungi anyone? One more thing to add, in KEW's checklist of British and Irish Basidiomycota
It states that its known from North Hampshire and Oxfordshire and characterised by The markedly bifurcate cheilo- and pleurocystidia being diagnostic
Now I'm not that proficient on fungal physiology/anatomy as of yet but does that in any way point to the nature of the cap? | 
03-02-2010, 09:05 AM
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| | | Re: Frilly capped Fungi anyone? Quote:
Originally Posted by Mad about Nature One more thing to add, in KEW's checklist of British and Irish Basidiomycota
It states that its known from North Hampshire and Oxfordshire and characterised by The markedly bifurcate cheilo- and pleurocystidia being diagnostic
Now I'm not that proficient on fungal physiology/anatomy as of yet but does that in any way point to the nature of the cap?  | No  Cheilocystidia are found at the edge of the gills Pleurocystidia are on the face of the gills so niether would affect the cap. Extra long pileocystidia would make a difference as they are found on the surface of the cap. Unfortunately this species does not have distinctive pileocystidia.
Mal | 
03-02-2010, 09:19 AM
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| | | Re: Frilly capped Fungi anyone? Quote:
Originally Posted by Mad about Nature My recent find points me to P.rostellata but it seems quite hard to find much more info or images on this. It seems to be suggested it grows in Czech rep. and Slovakia regarding Europe and the images I have found seem to have been taken in Scandinavia where it's known as Spånspröding. | Hello,
it is of course legal to search for a name for your picture, but you should bear in mind that in this genus there is in most species no way for determination without proper microscoping of the fruitbody. Yours will never ever recieve a determination without microscopic details, and even then it is not sure that it can be determined. There is not much knowledge about fungi in Japan compared to Europe, and even in Europe Psathyrella is difficult.
best regards,
Andreas
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03-02-2010, 09:53 AM
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| | | Re: Frilly capped Fungi anyone? the fringed cap is reminiscent of Panaeolus papilionaceous/sphinctrinus, but the scaly stem is more like a Stropharia, if it had been a blue/green colour, i would have taken it for Stropharia aeruginosa or something similar ?
i would think there are many species of both groups present in Japan that are unknown in Europe,
gleditsa, | 
03-02-2010, 09:55 AM
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| | | Re: Frilly capped Fungi anyone? In view of the lack of information concerning gill characteristics and and spore colour it appears to me that, macroscopically speaking, Tubaria conspersa might just fit the bill also.
David | 
04-02-2010, 04:51 AM
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| | Re: Frilly capped Fungi anyone? I guess I should be more than happy, with the help of all concerned of course, to narrow my unidentified fungal friends down to Genus alone.
Maybe one day in the not too distant future and with the correct research material I will succeed in identifying the actual species.
Hope to get back to you all on that, meanwhile I'll be over at wildabouttheworld. |  | | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode |
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