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02-02-2010, 02:03 PM
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| | | Fungus in soil amongst ivy and under Hawthorn
Hello all
Whilst at Thorpe Salvin woods, Les and I found this scrappy clump of fungus growing on soil amongst ivy and under Hawthorn.
Almost Chanterelle (white) in gill appearance but discoloration due to age more likely. Thoughts of Clitopilus / Clitocybe but would welcome comments. 
Any help much appreciated
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02-02-2010, 04:32 PM
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| | | Re: Fungus in soil amongst ivy and under Hawthorn
Any viscidity? The discolouring could suggest Hygrophorus? |
02-02-2010, 04:35 PM
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| | | Re: Fungus in soil amongst ivy and under Hawthorn
I must admit, I did think Hygrocybe for some reason, perhaps the gills of the upturned specimen. |
02-02-2010, 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by BROCSMAN  Any viscidity? The discolouring could suggest Hygrophorus? | No, none at all and very unlike Hygrophorus in that respect
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02-02-2010, 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by NickCantle I must admit, I did think Hygrocybe for some reason, perhaps the gills of the upturned specimen. | The younger frb's did remind me of Hygrocybe too Nick. I've got them dried so may spend a few weeks on the scope  
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02-02-2010, 06:41 PM
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| | | Re: Fungus in soil amongst ivy and under Hawthorn
Hello,
in my opinion this is Camarophyllus niveus, the stouter form which has sometimes been called Camarophyllus virgineus. The discoloration is due to age and dryness in my opinion, not a species character.
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Andreas
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Have we lumped these 2 together as Hygocybe virginea in this country ?
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02-02-2010, 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by mollisia Hello,
in my opinion this is Camarophyllus niveus, the stouter form which has sometimes been called Camarophyllus virgineus. The discoloration is due to age and dryness in my opinion, not a species character.
best regards,
Andreas | Thanks Andreas Quote:
Originally Posted by fairplay Have we lumped these 2 together as Hygocybe virginea in this country ?
Neil. | I thought we had Neil!
It's a shame I didn't notice these when I passed them a few days earlier. It was eagle eyed Les who spotted them 
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02-02-2010, 09:58 PM
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| | | Re: Fungus in soil amongst ivy and under Hawthorn
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Originally Posted by fairplay Have we lumped these 2 together as Hygocybe virginea in this country ?
Neil. | Hello neil,
oh, I mixed it up! You are right, virgineus is the name of choice and niveus is the synonym. But I stick to the genus Camarophyllus separate from Hygrocybe and will be pleased when moleculare data one day will show that I'm right ... hopefully 
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