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23-12-2009, 04:01 PM
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| | | Crepidotus on pinus Hello all
Whilst at Sherwood Pines recently, Les found this Crepidotus on pinus which is proving to be a real problem identifying.
Here are a few images:
Note the ‘paler’ older fruit bodies in the last image
Samples will go to Kew when they reopen
Any help as always much appreciated
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23-12-2009, 07:04 PM
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| | | Re: Crepidotus on pinus Hi John
With most of the Crepidotus I think it is best to work through the keys as they all tend to overlap macroscopically, although most of the species that can grow on wood seem to prefer hardwoods.
If it has punctate subglobose spores it may be C.applanatus, as this is fleshy and hygrophanous, and can occur on conifer wood. Best try BFF Vol 6 or/and Fungi Nordica.
Peter
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23-12-2009, 07:43 PM
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| | | Re: Crepidotus on pinus Quote:
Originally Posted by Ditiola Hi John
With most of the Crepidotus I think it is best to work through the keys as they all tend to overlap macroscopically, although most of the species that can grow on wood seem to prefer hardwoods.
If it has punctate subglobose spores it may be C.applanatus, as this is fleshy and hygrophanous, and can occur on conifer wood. Best try BFF Vol 6 or/and Fungi Nordica.
Peter | Hello Peter
Thanks for that. I sent the images to Nick and he wrote back:
'It appears to be a genuine Crepidotus as well, since the edges of the lamellae are entire (not a Lentinus or such like, when the edges would be serrate-fimbriate). But the whole thing is the wrong colour !
My only guess (and it is a guess !) might be Crepidotus applanatus var. subglobiger which grows on pines and is easily distinguished by it's almost sub-globose spores BUT your material which appears to be in very good condition, just doesn't look right, colour-wise.'
I've not checked for clamps yet but tried keying out in F Nordica to come across problems of colour and the fact it is on pinus!
... microscope now warming up
John | 
23-12-2009, 09:04 PM
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| | | Re: Crepidotus on pinus Consider Panellus mitis => pinkish, Autumn to Winter, grows on dead wood from conifers. | 
23-12-2009, 10:15 PM
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| | | Re: Crepidotus on pinus Quote:
Originally Posted by Leif Consider Panellus mitis => pinkish, Autumn to Winter, grows on dead wood from conifers. | Good call Leif, I had Panellus in mind too but not the species. However having seen the image on Mycokey I am tempted to concur. Let's hope John can get a positive ID.
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23-12-2009, 10:17 PM
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| | | Re: Crepidotus on pinus Hello,
Leif is correct, no doubt that this is Panellus mitis. The gills are not the slightest brown and the fruitbodies are pleurotoid with a short stipe. In Crepidotus they are fixed without a stipe.
best regards,
Andreas
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23-12-2009, 11:56 PM
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| | | Re: Crepidotus on pinus Quote:
Originally Posted by Leif Consider Panellus mitis => pinkish, Autumn to Winter, grows on dead wood from conifers. | Hi Leif
Panellus (mitis) was my second thought but rejected through not having a distinctive, if short, stipe. However, the gill images clearly show this characteristic.
I'll look further tomorrow ... later today
Thanks too Andreas
John | 
08-02-2010, 08:26 PM
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| | | Re: Crepidotus on pinus Hello all
Kew have confirmed this to be Panellus mitis - typical amyloid, allantoid spores and gel edge to gills.
Many thanks to everyone for their input.
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