Ganoderma resinaceum maybe

[CapAndBracket]

Photographed today all comments welcome.




Unfortunately they are old and the pore surface is all mould, so a tree i will have to try and refind next august.

Cheers J.P.

[diggleken]

Good timing JP, heres one from last weekend if I can piggyback a bit on your thread?
I thought it was a group of blushing brackets (pouring with rain is my excuse) but realised it wasnt right when I downloaded - were yours similar, and are mine lacquered bracket too???
Pores are something I cant get an idea of from my books, but are quite distinct it seems from this pic.
Will return tomoprrow for a better pic hopefully.
Cheers
Ken

[fairplay]

Hi John,
I've been caught out many times with these, so I'm not going to even hazard a guess.
From what you seem to be saying you came across this by chance, late in the day and never saw it growing from day one, so therefore I guess you are not able to say it is an annual as opposed to the perennials, e.g. G.australe & applanatum.

Yours doesn't look very solid to me, (but I could be wrong) which suggests it would have slowly disintegrated after a few more months, which would make it an annual and possibly G.resinaceum.

G.resinaceum when young has a distinctive coffee coloured lip sometimes swollen and I have in front of me one from this year which unfortunately was not firmly attached and fell off, but it had reached maturity and lost it's lip but there is still a coffee coloured zone around the edge which continues underneath for the same distance of half to three quarters of a centimeter before the pores begin.

I cannot see any sign of a coffee coloured edge or lip on your specimen and it shows similarities to one Mal posted a short while ago which was wet and showed a very red surface as with yours.
I think Mal's was 'determined' as australe, but I'm not too happy as I'm pretty certain there is a spot of hybridisation going on here at times.

We already know there are stalkless versions of G.lucidum, we know G.australe can have a more reddish appearance at times and my version of G.resinaceum (definitely, as I have been watching it grow on an Oak 3 years in a row now) has a bit of a swollen stem which is partly covered by the very glossy burgundy/dark brown colour you would expect to see on the stem of G.lucidum !!

So what is going on ? I don't know is the answer and maybe ANDREAS (to the rescue) could tell us how deeply this problem (it is for me) has been looked into, i.e. has DNA research conclusively separated the species ?

Neil.

EDIT. Just seen Ken's shot and his is not going to be easy to sort out either, but Andreas will do it "just like that" !

[CapAndBracket]

Many thank's fairplay you have just made me feel a whole lot better about my tenuous approach to these which i don't find clearly definitive either, and ken has certainly added to the interest.
I should have said the top photo had three more above it, one of which i prised of to show the (dare i call it psuedo stipe) which made me wonder about G.lucidum, the one i picked is dead, pores are a mass of mould and what is remarkable is just how light weight it is so i'm certainly thinking in the annual group, to add to the confusion fungi of Poland has a G.carnosum as well (which looks like my photo), there seem to be a mass of suspect images on the net.
Ken i should have mentioned mine are at the base of a large oak, so it will be interesting to see which substrate your are on.

Cheers J.P.

[diggleken]

Thanks both, good interesting stuff - I thought brackets were easier than mushy types, clearly disillusioned poor chap that I am!
If I can blag it when at work tomorrow I will revisit and get some more pics and detail, especially pores and edges.
oh, mine are on willow I suspect, not oak etc but will double check!
Anything else to make amore positive ID do you think?
Cheers
Ken

[fairplay]

Ken,

Your mentioning Willow has given me the idea yours might not be a strange Ganoderma (certainly not with pores that big) but may be a strange cross between Daedaleopsis confragosa and the variety 'tricolour' which is more red on the cap surface, but has slit like pores looking like gills.

So in other words, a type of D.confragosa with a very red surface (and pores)
I don't sound very convincing I know and I expect someone will say it is just a distorted so and so.

Neil.

[diggleken]

Hi Neil, that might explain my assumption of ageing red blushing bracket - food for thought, check out tomorrow - I wonder if it will blush........?
Cheers
Ken

[diggleken]

Well, here we are, tricolour or not?
Growth pattern of the top was a bit unusual, never seen blushers like it - a strong thick chunky part, then a thinner part, like a tree does growing more in wet summers and so on, strange.............
On Willow.
Its Daedaleopsis, but not as I know it - more reddy than dark ruddy and with stronger looking, more open pores - still a bit blushy though.
Any more ideas out there to help?
Cheers
Ken

[fairplay]

Yes, definitely Daedaliopsis confragosa but with the red colouring of var. tricolor, but not having the gill shaped pores of var.tricolor

Neil.

[flaxton]

From the Checklist

Notes: Not authentically British. Reported on numerous occasions from widespread localities in England but all records are dubious, probably referring to old, reddened and partially lamellate basidiomes of D. confragosa. The single collection so named in herb. K is D. confragosa.

Mal