dung roundhead webcap for identification?!

[lipase]

I found this mushroom up on kinder scout (a peat area) in one of four or five fields behind a small forest (of what I think was pine but my memory is poor).

This specimen has been left inside for one to two days and I'm unsure of the effect this had on it in terms of colouration etc:

[gleditsa]

I would say its more likely to be a Stopharia sp, something like aeruginosa or caerulea, but would not like to guess at which it actually is,
needs a more expert opinion i think,
j.

[NickCantle]

Originally Posted by gleditsa

I would say its more likely to be a Stopharia sp, something like aeruginosa or caerulea, but would not like to guess at which it actually is

I think you've nailed it Gleditsa. Though I reckon it's lost the features that would e used to separate the two

[gleditsa]

given the fact that it was found in a grass field, rather than in woodland, i would say its probably caerulea, but then again fungi seem to ignore the textbooks and do their own thing, so it could be either, or as Chris recently pointed out in another thread on Stropharia, another species again (the name of which i cant remember).

j

[fairplay]

Don't forget Lipase had the genus right in the first place with his assumption of Dung Roundhead - Stropharia semiglobata, but with the blue colour in the stem and the ring still present and no clear white edge to gills, I'm opting for S.aeruginosa
(S.pseudocyanea was the one Gleditsa forgot the name of).

Neil.

[lipase]

Originally Posted by gleditsa

I would say its more likely to be a Stopharia sp, something like aeruginosa or caerulea, but would not like to guess at which it actually is,
needs a more expert opinion i think,
j.

Originally Posted by NickCantle

I think you've nailed it Gleditsa. Though I reckon it's lost the features that would e used to separate the two

Originally Posted by gleditsa

given the fact that it was found in a grass field, rather than in woodland, i would say its probably caerulea, but then again fungi seem to ignore the textbooks and do their own thing, so it could be either, or as Chris recently pointed out in another thread on Stropharia, another species again (the name of which i cant remember).

j

Originally Posted by fairplay

Don't forget Lipase had the genus right in the first place with his assumption of Dung Roundhead - Stropharia semiglobata, but with the blue colour in the stem and the ring still present and no clear white edge to gills, I'm opting for S.aeruginosa
(S.pseudocyanea was the one Gleditsa forgot the name of).

Neil.

Are you all certain that it's one of the blue species then rather than a variation of the dung roundhead coz the cap doesn't look at all blue in the slightest does it? or does the blue colouration possibly disappear from the cap after a few days picked?

thanks everyone by the way. Loving the number of experts/ people that know more than me who are answering!

[fairplay]

The rain would have washed away the blue/green in the cap (or faded in the sunlight in case you are going to say 'it ain't rained for yonks') which would have acted like an umbrella and protected the hint of blue remaining in the stem.

Neil.

[lipase]

Originally Posted by fairplay

The rain would have washed away the blue/green in the cap (or faded in the sunlight in case you are going to say 'it ain't rained for yonks') which would have acted like an umbrella and protected the hint of blue remaining in the stem.

Neil.

good thinking batman! are you sure about that though or is that a guess?

sorry to question your knowledge!

*edit*
ah did you mean the picked mushroom fading or it fading whilst still growing? The picked mushroom was left picked inside my house on a tray in a fairly well-lit room (in terms of sunlight) on a chair on which it would get about an hour of direct sunlight everyday; and indirect sunlight for the rest of the day.

[ashgale]

Originally Posted by lipase

good thinking batman! are you sure about that though or is that a guess?

sorry to question your knowledge!

*edit*
ah did you mean the picked mushroom fading or it fading whilst still growing? The picked mushroom was left picked inside my house on a tray in a fairly well-lit room (in terms of sunlight) on a chair on which it would get about an hour of direct sunlight everyday; and indirect sunlight for the rest of the day.

i recently found a large patch of these , which , judging by the bright colour of the caps must have been quite fresh, some were in almost full light while others were in quite deep shade, over the next few days they all faded to look like the one you have posted here, the ones in the shade seem to have faded at about the same degree as the ones in the light, so i presume that the colour loss is more to do with age than exposure to sun/light ?

ashgale.

[NickCantle]

I must admit, out of many species that I've seen, the Stropharia do seem to lose their colour ever so quickly.