3 for assistance s.v.p

alge · #1 (**permalink**) 05-11-2009, 12:14 AM

These three are more from my village green

1 Growing under Fagus

Cap Smooth at first glance but minute greyish hairs evident under x10 magnification, convex to expanded when mature, undulated margin, up to 8cm diameter.

Stem Excentric, whitish and slightly striated into fibrillouse under mag. x10, kind of sinuate base, overall short in length.

Gills Decurrent, creamy to pale pink colour.

Spores Pale pink print

The closest i can get on this is Clitopilus prunulus. Keys seem good but i'm well out of my comfort zone

2 Growing under Acer campestre

Cap Smooth at first glance but minute olive grey hairs evident under x10 magnification (radial fibrills?), convex to umbonate when mature, undulated margin, up to 9cm diameter.

Stem White, slightly fibrillous surface iridescent under x10 magnification, wall 2mm thick and very fibrous inside, up to 8cm long.

Gills Free-remote with a jagged edge, light pink.

Spores light pink print.

I cant get past Entoloma, pink spore is a give away but macros on the keys are tough for a sp.

3 growing between Betula pendula and Larix

Cap Brown with obvious fibrouse white/grey hairs, convex to umbonate, rusty coloured veil evident at margin.

Stem similar grey/brown with more pronounced white fibrills, rusty veil evident, hollow at the top into cap and fibrillous lower down.

Gills Appear minutely decurrent attached by a tooth, brown to olive.

Spores as gills on print

Pretty certain its my first i.d of a Cortinarius and C. paleaceus looks good on keys but not like the examples in my Phillips. One good match of an image in a Gerrit j. Keizer book but not the best descriptions in this one.

So what do you think folks?

Macro lens like images taken on my mobile phone (as always) but using my new Gowlland x10 compound lens held in front of the phone lens. To say I'm chuffed with the results for a first go would be an understatement.

Alex

stickman · #2 (**permalink**) 05-11-2009, 12:27 AM

Hi Alex

Number 1 looks OK for Clitopilus prunulus but the cap colour looks a bit violet on my monitor??

Could Number 2 be lepista nuda?

Number 3 isway beyond me

Cheers, Nick.

alge · #3 (**permalink**) 05-11-2009, 12:40 AM

thanks for taking a look nick at this late hour, cap on 1 is whitsh-grey with the one i have here but its had a day to dry it was grey in the field, no hint of violet.

i'm not keen on nuda for 2, but i have fallen foul of colour time and time again

alex

Ken Burgess · #4 (**permalink**) 05-11-2009, 08:58 AM

Number 2 is an Entoloma.

Number 3 is one of the small Cortinarius species around C. flexipes (which was C. paleaceus) or, if it had no smell, it could have been C. hemitrichus. C. paleaceus itself has a distinctive smell, said to be like pelargoniums (i.e. geraniums). Without knowing whether it had this smell or not, you can't narrow it down any further.

Ken

Jim Ford · #5 (**permalink**) 05-11-2009, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by stickman

Number 1 looks OK for Clitopilus prunulus but the cap colour looks a bit violet on my monitor??

Also looks violet on my monitor - which is calibrated.

Jim

alge · #6 (**permalink**) 05-11-2009, 09:25 AM

Jim and nick i really cant explain the colour issue but many thanks for drawing it to my attention i will look on another monitor to see for myself, i guess its a wabbism of up loading and mucking around with the pixels to get the image small enough

Ken, sorry i didn't add to the post there was no distinct smell as i thought that was most likely me. My notes read "Smell not helpful" well that couldn't be further from the truth.

I'll double check a fresh one tomorrow morning as its dark when i get home in the evenings.

Alex

mollisia · #7 (**permalink**) 05-11-2009, 12:25 PM

Hello,

no. 1 is a Clitopilus, but may be not C. prunulus but C. cystidiatus. This is a species (?? is it really a good one ...) that differs from C. prunulus by scattered hyphoid cystidia, greyish colour and a slightly different smell (farinaceous, but with a reminescent of Inocybe).
The grey colours suggest that it could be C. cystidiatus. Everytime when I carefully microscope my collections of C. "prunulus" they are cystidiatus ... May be prunulus has stopped to exist

No. 2 is an Entoloma, and I think it is E. lividoalbum. But that would mean, that there are also some oak nearby or at least another decidous tree then Acer!

no. 3 is very probably C. hemitrichus, because the scales are very distinct and regular, the veil on the stipe is not in girdles only but also along the stipe and the growth in grass is very unusual for C. flexipes and above all in the background one can see birch leafes.

best regards,
Andreas

stickman · #8 (**permalink**) 05-11-2009, 08:32 PM

Number 2 still looks to me like a really soggy L.nuda!!

What is it that points to Entoloma? I see E.lividoalbum is included in the CBIB but can't seem to find a decent picture......

Cheers, Nick.

mollisia · #9 (**permalink**) 05-11-2009, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by stickman

Number 2 still looks to me like a really soggy L.nuda!!

What is it that points to Entoloma? I see E.lividoalbum is included in the CBIB but can't seem to find a decent picture......

Cheers, Nick.

Hello Nick,

the fruitbodies don't look overaged or frozen or so to me.
What makes me exclude Lepista nuda ist at first the white stipe and at second the quite distant gills. Apart from the overall look.

best regards,
Andreas

stickman · #10 (**permalink**) 06-11-2009, 12:22 AM

Thanks Andreas,

Useful info. Actually I missed the comment about the stipe colour in the original post

and all these photos seem to have a hint of violet on my monitor. Or maybe it's just my eyes - I am a touch colourblind!

I like to think I would have been quick to smell this one which (I hope) would have helped me out a bit....

Cheers, Nick.