A couple for ID please Coprinus?

[jaybie]

These were found on a fallen beech ..

Possibly Coprinus silvaticus it seems to match the picture in my newly acquired Phillips Mushrooms.



These were a lot smaller - the single one being about 15mm high. Similar in shape to the above but different in colour - growing about a metre apart from the above.



Many thanks, JohnB

[diggleken]

Hi John,
the first is glistening/mica inkcap, coprinus micaceus.
Cheers
Ken

[Chris Yeates]

Originally Posted by diggleken

Hi John,
the first is glistening/mica inkcap, coprinus micaceus.
Cheers
Ken

so definitely not Coprinellus truncorum, then, Ken?

C

[diggleken]

Absolutely maybe...............
Oh, I have a microscope Chris, its a worrying development.
Cheers master
Ken

[jaybie]

Just checked back in Phillips and micaceus is there but no reference to truncorum

Guess I will have to look elsewhere for info.

JohnB

[Chris Yeates]

Originally Posted by jaybie

Just checked back in Phillips and micaceus is there but no reference to truncorum

Guess I will have to look elsewhere for info.

JohnB

the two are very similar - best distinguished on spore shape

the problem is that the Roger Phillips book - good though it is - shows around 16 species of Coprinus in its broad sense . . . unfortunately there are another hundred or more British species which are not included in that book

and the "info" you need is scattered all over the place - the Kees Ulje site is a very good start - Coprinus (Studies in Coprinus - keys to subsections and species in Coprinus) . . . although to hijack Bette Davis' comments re old age: Coprinus "is no place for sissies" . . .

Chris

[NickCantle]

The second is a Mycena, and I'm sure Mal will put a good word in

[jaybie]

Originally Posted by Chris Yeates

the two are very similar - best distinguished on spore shape

the problem is that the Roger Phillips book - good though it is - shows around 16 species of Coprinus in its broad sense . . . unfortunately there are another hundred or more British species which are not included in that book

and the "info" you need is scattered all over the place - the Kees Ulje site is a very good start - Coprinus (Studies in Coprinus - keys to subsections and species in Coprinus) . . . although to hijack Bette Davis' comments re old age: Coprinus "is no place for sissies" . . .

Chris

Thanks Chris - don't think I'm ready for microscopy yet.

The link is great and give my regards to Bette

JohnB

[jaybie]

Originally Posted by NickCantle

The second is a Mycena, and I'm sure Mal will put a good word in

Thanks Nick I wasn't sure where to start.

JohnB