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08-10-2009, 08:42 PM
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| | 3 cemeterywaxcaps These three, hopefully waxcaps, in a local mown grass cemetery, grateful for input/ID.
Cheers
Ken
1/ Meadow waxcap? 
2/ H laeta? strange cap feature - any clues what that is? 
3/ H flavipes?
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08-10-2009, 11:12 PM
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| | | Re: 3 cemeterywaxcaps Quote:
Originally Posted by diggleken These three, hopefully waxcaps, in a local mown grass cemetery, grateful for input/ID.
Cheers
Ken
1/ Meadow waxcap? 
2/ H laeta? strange cap feature - any clues what that is? 
3/ H flavipes?  | Have the photos come out a bit more orange than in 'real' life? If so then 1 looks like H pratensis.
2nd (if you subdue the orange a bit) could be rather dried up versions of H laeta. Were the cap and stems viscid?
3rd ... I've yet to see H flavipes, but the photos of it are generally more mauve and the stipe fibrillose, which would make me think not. Also yours looks as if the cap and stem are viscid. I've had H psittacina in the colouring of yours, well, slightly less orange, a bit more mauve. Were the gills decurrent or narrowly adnate? I've had H laeta in very pinkish colouring too, and think maybe that is what it is, if the gills were decurrent. Though the photo looks more like adnate.
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09-10-2009, 07:11 AM
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| | | Re: 3 cemeterywaxcaps Number 1 is Hygrocybe pratensis.
Number 3 is Hygrocybe psittacina.
I pass on number 2. | 
09-10-2009, 03:18 PM
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| | | Re: 3 cemeterywaxcaps Thanks both, sorry to be late, busy...............
Melanie, the colours are about right, well lit by the sun, so maybe rich, but accurate.
I know Parrots are quite variable, but they were all quite mauve and the newly emergent werent very glutinous as they aften are and none had a grrenish or yellowish tinge to the cap..............
I wonder if these will help at all with what you think might be Parrots, that I thought might be flavipes - and two drying out specimens of it showing cap top and gills?
Cheers
Ken  [url=http://www.wildaboutbritain.co.uk/archive/showphoto.php?photo=114375]  [/url 
And another of the possible laeta, maybe its cantharellus??
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09-10-2009, 03:43 PM
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| | | Re: 3 cemeterywaxcaps Hi Ken,
No one has mentioned the strange cap feature, - I can only think it's some sort of aberration. Certainly never seen anything like that myself.
On that particular fungus, apart from the very newly emerging specimen in the last photo you uploaded, none of these appear be showing particularly viscid caps or stipes. (which is a usual feature of H.laeta).
Have you considered H.reidii? I think that might be a contender. - They have the dryish appearance, right colour & decurrent gills etc.
Regards,
Mike. | 
09-10-2009, 04:34 PM
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| | | Re: 3 cemeterywaxcaps Hi Mike,
H. reidii, this is one I dont know of!
But looking at your image in the Gallery and description, it does look very good - particularly the strongly decurrent gills and cap and stem colouration.
I'll do some more rooting when I can, tomorrow hopefully.
This may be why I was so unsure of laeta and cantharellus................ 
Many thanks
Ken
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09-10-2009, 04:37 PM
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| | | Re: 3 cemeterywaxcaps Quote:
Originally Posted by diggleken ....H. reidii, this is one I dont know of!... | There's info on pages 76/77 in Phillips, Ken.
Regards,
Mike. | 
09-10-2009, 04:40 PM
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| | | Re: 3 cemeterywaxcaps Quote:
Originally Posted by diggleken Thanks both, sorry to be late, busy...............
Melanie, the colours are about right, well lit by the sun, so maybe rich, but accurate.
I know Parrots are quite variable, but they were all quite mauve and the newly emergent werent very glutinous as they aften are and none had a grrenish or yellowish tinge to the cap..............
I wonder if these will help at all with what you think might be Parrots, that I thought might be flavipes - and two drying out specimens of it showing cap top and gills?
Cheers
Ken  [url=http://www.wildaboutbritain.co.uk/archive/showphoto.php?photo=114375]  [/url 
And another of the possible laeta, maybe its cantharellus??  | I'd go with H laeta on the bottom one ... the emerging one looks quite typical and the one to the right appears to have the typical slightly green/grey top of stipe.
The pinky mauve one is either H laeta or H psittacina, from what I can make out from the photo. And if it is very dry it is not unusual for them to be not obviously glutinous even when young. I've picked some (very similar colouring to these) and they seemed dry but there was a very drying wind at the time, but once in my box with a bit of humidity they showed their real nature. H laeta have usually very obviously decurrent gills, but because these have pulled away I can't quite make out if that is the case here. So I'm hedging my bets, though slightly favour it being H psittacina  I know someone who thinks that the pink/mauve psittacina is due to infection, but another friend and I both think that this is just another of their colour forms. We seem to get quite a few of that colour around here.
I've had H laeta with all sorts of strange cap appearances, they are prolific over quite a few months on my usual site (though they have not yet started producing this year), and the weather does do strange things to them. It looks like the effect of dryness to me on those.
cheers
Melanie | 
09-10-2009, 05:51 PM
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| | | Re: 3 cemeterywaxcaps The gills of H. laeta are always decurrent, unlike those of the pink specimens in the photos. They may have a decurrent tooth but they are very typical of ventricose gills of H. psittacina, particularly noticeable in the specimen that is lying on its side. This is a regular colour variant of H. psittacina and they can often dry out when they have been around for a while. I've brought back plenty over the last few years just to check... and they all turn out to be H. psittacina.
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09-10-2009, 07:00 PM
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| | | Re: 3 cemeterywaxcaps Quote:
Originally Posted by ManwithNoname The gills of H. laeta are always decurrent, unlike those of the pink specimens in the photos. They may have a decurrent tooth but they are very typical of ventricose gills of H. psittacina, particularly noticeable in the specimen that is lying on its side. This is a regular colour variant of H. psittacina and they can often dry out when they have been around for a while. I've brought back plenty over the last few years just to check... and they all turn out to be H. psittacina. | Very useful to have your confirmation  . I just didn't quite dare commit myself to that  , not without getting it in my hands. Also that is useful information that you get the pink form of H psittacina regularly too. I seem to keep dragging H psittacina home, just to make sure .... Just had an all yellow one which was one too.
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