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08-10-2009, 07:50 PM
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| | | Re: WAB at Clumber 2009 - The Final Reckoning!
Quote:
Originally Posted by fairplay  Hi Mal,
Glad you had a good time.
At the base of the spore sac, there is a very distinct collar where it is attached to the stem, (no hand lens needed).
Be careful though when looking as the collar in young fruitbodies can sometimes hide the stem giving the impression there is no stalk.
This is where I am going to give a free plug for the new Collins book, because it covers the Earthstars extremely well with some excellent photos.
Just go to page 273 and you will see G.striatum & G.pectinatum side by side for a clear comparison.
There is even an extra photo below of G.pectinatum with a slight variation where there is a 'chamfered' connection of the spore sac to stem, but the collar on G.striatum is always distinct giving the impression it is free of the stem
Hope that helps.
Neil. 
Afterthought: Just think of the sliding ring on a Macrolepiota procera stem, now imagine the top of the free ring connected to the bottom of the spore sac of G.striatum where it meets the stalk. This is not a perfect description of what the collar looks like, but it's the best I can come up with. | Neil
Would I be right in thinking (as I must be one of the few people without the new Collins) going on that information this 
which was confirmed by someone as G pectinatum is probably G striatum 
Mal  |
08-10-2009, 08:22 PM
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| | | Re: WAB at Clumber 2009 - The Final Reckoning!
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Originally Posted by flaxton Neil
Would I be right in thinking (as I must be one of the few people without the new Collins) going on that information this
which was confirmed by someone as G pectinatum is probably G striatum
Mal | It is indeed Geastrum striatum, Mal, as per my text to John after consulting the Kew book.  (I think everyone was struggling to put a firm ID to these - assuming it was one of the ones found under the cedar on the Saturday - without good photos and a decent key.)
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08-10-2009, 08:56 PM
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| | | Re: WAB at Clumber 2009 - The Final Reckoning!
Here are a couple of images of the young Earthstars - Geastrum striatum I took on the 5th September 2009. What a difference a month can have!  
John |
08-10-2009, 09:04 PM
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| | | Re: WAB at Clumber 2009 - The Final Reckoning!
Hi Mal,
I've just caught up.
Yes, definitely. MwnN has said it all.
Neil.
PS. That's some smashing detailed shots of G.striatum from David.
PPS. That's some smashing detailed shots of G.striatum from John too, this time showing them young before the collar has separated from the base, thus hiding the stalk and leading to possible confusion. |
08-10-2009, 10:49 PM
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| | | Re: WAB at Clumber 2009 - The Final Reckoning!
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Originally Posted by ManwithNoname It is indeed Geastrum striatum, Mal, as per my text to John after consulting the Kew book. (I think everyone was struggling to put a firm ID to these - assuming it was one of the ones found under the cedar on the Saturday - without good photos and a decent key.) | Thanks. This was one of a few I found just around the corner from home  . Now a quick rename of a few photos.
Mal |
08-10-2009, 10:52 PM
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| | | Re: WAB at Clumber 2009 - The Final Reckoning!
It's a stick .. 
Just to show that I was paying attention here's a couple of photogenic shots of what I have as Angel's Bonnet - Mycena arcangeliana  
This is where I find out that I noted them wrong - must get a dictaphone to replace the memory cells
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08-10-2009, 11:04 PM
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| | | Re: WAB at Clumber 2009 - The Final Reckoning!
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Originally Posted by flaxton Thanks. This was one of a few I found just around the corner from home . Now a quick rename of a few photos.
Mal | Nice to have a local stash of something a bit more unusual. I only ever come across Geastrum triplex around here.  |
09-10-2009, 07:45 PM
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Here's my last two from Saturday... 
False Deathcap 
And more Sulphur Tuft - I have no shame!
Now we start on Sunday's crop... 
Blackening Waxcap 
Brown Birch Bolete 
Bearded Milkcap
Dave P.
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09-10-2009, 07:55 PM
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A couple more from the foray ..
Not sure here - is this Yellow Club? 
Grey Coral - Clavulina cineria 
JohnB
PS I have looked through my newly acquired Phillips Mushrooms and can't find reference to the earthstar Geastrum striatum. Is this because of the difficulty to include everything? |
09-10-2009, 08:16 PM
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Hello all
After listening to 10 hours of audio recordings over the forays ... OK I like the sound of my own voice and looking at the images, here is the initial list of species found between Friday and Monday.
Some like the Hygrocybe may need extra work as suggested by MwnN but here we go:
Aleuria aurantia
Amanita citrina
Amanita citrina var alba
Amanita fulva
Amanita muscaria
Amanita rubescens
Amanita virosa
Armillaria mellea
Ascocoryne sarcoides
Bisporella citrina
Boletus badius
Boletus edulis
Boletus erythropus
Boletus luridiformis
Boletus parasiticus
Calocera cornea
Calocera viscosa
Chalciporus piperatus
Clavulina cinerea
Clavulinopsis helvola
Clitocybe nebularis
Collybia fusipes
Collybia maculata
Coltricia perrennis New Record
Coprinus atramentarius
Coprinus disseminatus
Coprinus micaceus
Coriolus versicolor
Cortinarius bibulus New Record
Cudoniella acicularis
Cystoderma amianthinum
Dacrymyces stillatus
Daedaleopsis confragosa
Diatrype disciformis
Diatrype stigma
Enteridium lycoperdon
Fistulina hepatica
Flammulina velutipes
Fomes fomentarius
2 Galerina species which got tossed over the shoulder
Ganoderma adspersum
Ganoderma applanatum
Geastrum striatum
Geastrum triplex
Gymnopilus junionus
Gymnopilus penetrans
Heterobasidium annosum
Hygrocybe calciphila (CF) New Record, but to be verified further
Hygrocybe conica
Hypholoma fasciculare
Hypholoma fasciculare
Hypomyces lateritia on Lactarius
Hypoxylon fragiforme
Hypoxylon multiforme
Inocybe fastigiata
Inonotus radiatus New Record
Laccaria amethystina
Laccaria laccata
Lactarius quietus
Lactarius turpis
Lactarius vietus
Laetiporus sulphureus
Leccinum Scabrum
Lycoperdon perlatum
Lycoperdon pyriforme
Macrolepiota procera
Macrolepiota rhacodes
Megacollybia platyphylla
Meripilus giganteus
Microthyrium macrosporum
Mollisia cinerea
Mucor mucido
Mycena arcangeliana
Mycena galericulata
Mycena galopus
Mycena inclinata
Nectria cinnabarina
Orbilia Species
Oudimanciella mucida
Paxillus involutus
Paxilus (Tapinella) atrotomentosa New Record
Peziza cerea
Phallus impudicus
Phlebia tremellosa New Record
Pholiota aurivella
Pholiota flammans
Pholiota squarrosa
Physarum bivalve
Piptoporus betulinus
Pleurotus ostreatus
Pleurotus pulmonarius
Pluteus cervinus
Pluteus umbrosus
Polyporus badius
Polyporus brumalis
Postia ptychogaster New Record
Psathyrella hydrophila
Pycnostysanus azaleae
Rhytisma acerinum
Rickenella swartzii
Russula atropurpurea
Russula claroflava
Russula delica
Russula heterophylla
Russula ionochlora New Record
Russula mairei
Russula nigricans
Russula ochroleuca
Russula parazurea
Russula vesca
Scleroderma aerolatum
Scleroderma citrinum
Scutellinia umbrarum
Stereum hirsutum
Suillus bovinus
Suillus granulatus
Suillus luteus
Trametes gibbosa
Trametes multicolor
Ustulina deusta
Xerula radicata
Xylaria carpophila
Xylaria hypoxylon
Xylaria polymorpha
Some interesting New records for Clumber too. Although I find Russula ionochlora every year, it has escaped recording until now.
I'm sure you will all let me know if I've missed any out ... or included some extra's to increase numbers
John
Last edited by FungiJohn; 28-10-2009 at 02:56 PM.
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