WAB at Clumber 2009 - The Final Reckoning!

FungiJus · #1 (**permalink**) 04-10-2009, 01:17 PM

Well, I thought as I was one of the first home I would get the ball rolling...

Excellent weekend folks - fantastic to have met you all at last. Many thanks to John for his organisation (and for being a good sport considering the relative scarcity of 'proper' mushrooms!).

I won't spoil the fun by posting all of my shots - I will leave that to those with more skill (and equipment Dave

) than me, but here's a couple to be getting on with.

Looking forward to seeing the rest!

Cheers All.
J.

Chris Yeates · #2 (**permalink**) 04-10-2009, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by FungiJus

Excellent weekend folks - fantastic to have met you all at last. Many thanks to John for his organisation (and for being a good sport considering the relative scarcity of 'proper' mushrooms!).
Cheers All.
J.

seconded Jus

there was a lot of discussion re this earthstar - for me that "endoperidial collar" clinches it as Geastrum striatum . . . .

best

Chris

FungiJus · #3 (**permalink**) 04-10-2009, 05:32 PM

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there was a lot of discussion re this earthstar - for me that "endoperidial collar" clinches it as Geastrum striatum . . . .

Reference a text received by John this morning, you are in very good company with that ID Chris

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P.S. Wasn't it great to be able to communicate with each other this weekend without having to resort to winks and smilies

squishy · #4 (**permalink**) 04-10-2009, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by FungiJus

P.S. Wasn't it great to be able to communicate with each other this weekend without having to resort to winks and smilies

a breath of fresh air

fairplay · #5 (**permalink**) 04-10-2009, 08:28 PM

Welcome back folks.

Yes, I totally agree with Chris re: the basal collar - G.striatum.

Neil.

FungiJus · #6 (**permalink**) 05-10-2009, 06:47 AM

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a breath of fresh air

Plenty of that around too

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flaxton · #7 (**permalink**) 05-10-2009, 12:02 PM

What a great weekend. The fungi wasn't quite as prolific as we had been promised

but the company was fantastic. I have now got real faces to put to some of the names. As Fungijus said there are some great photos to come so just a pretty one from me before the professionals arrive

A quick question for Chris/Neil and co what are the features that split Geastrum pecinatum from G striatum

Thanks again to John for the organization over the weekend and putting up with my sarcastic comments but he might have to put up with them again next year.

Mal

fairplay · #8 (**permalink**) 05-10-2009, 12:29 PM

Hi Mal,

Glad you had a good time.
At the base of the spore sac, there is a very distinct collar where it is attached to the stem, (no hand lens needed).

Be careful though when looking as the collar in young fruitbodies can sometimes hide the stem giving the impression there is no stalk.

This is where I am going to give a free plug for the new Collins book, because it covers the Earthstars extremely well with some excellent photos.
Just go to page 273 and you will see G.striatum & G.pectinatum side by side for a clear comparison.
There is even an extra photo below of G.pectinatum with a slight variation where there is a 'chamfered' connection of the spore sac to stem, but the collar on G.striatum is always distinct giving the impression it is free of the stem

Hope that helps.

Neil.

Afterthought: Just think of the sliding ring on a Macrolepiota procera stem, now imagine the top of the free ring connected to the bottom of the spore sac of G.striatum where it meets the stalk. This is not a perfect description of what the collar looks like, but it's the best I can come up with.

squishy · #9 (**permalink**) 05-10-2009, 12:49 PM

here's the stinkhorn that i just managed to photograph before having to go

I swear I get an olfactory flash back whenever i look at that picture

And this is one of my best shots from the meet. I have forgotten what it was ID'd as

KeenTeen17 · #10 (**permalink**) 05-10-2009, 01:58 PM

great to meet everyone - not had chance to look at the photos yet. I think Adams mushroom was Coprinus domesticus - Ive got a pic somewhere

pressld2 · #11 (**permalink**) 05-10-2009, 02:44 PM

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And this is one of my best shots from the meet. I have forgotten what it was ID'd as

Notebook and pen next time Adam!

I think it's a Mycena but wouldn't dare go any further than that.

When I arrived on Friday evening it was to find a very happy Fungi John who had been out scouring the park for porcelain fungus and had come up trumps with a fallen beech that was just bursting with them...

Beautiful!

And so was this one, in spite of it's name...

Here's a quick view of one of the paths that was snatched (still with the 150mm macro) as we returned to the car...

More later...

Dave P.

squishy · #12 (**permalink**) 05-10-2009, 06:03 PM

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Notebook and pen next time Adam!

Dave P.

i had my hands to full with my camera!

jaybie · #13 (**permalink**) 05-10-2009, 06:44 PM

Just thought I would post this one of a medley of mycologists pondering the genus of a particular find during the foray.

I thought it was obvious but then what do I know

JohnB

flaxton · #14 (**permalink**) 08-10-2009, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by fairplay

Hi Mal,

Glad you had a good time.
At the base of the spore sac, there is a very distinct collar where it is attached to the stem, (no hand lens needed).

Be careful though when looking as the collar in young fruitbodies can sometimes hide the stem giving the impression there is no stalk.

This is where I am going to give a free plug for the new Collins book, because it covers the Earthstars extremely well with some excellent photos.
Just go to page 273 and you will see G.striatum & G.pectinatum side by side for a clear comparison.
There is even an extra photo below of G.pectinatum with a slight variation where there is a 'chamfered' connection of the spore sac to stem, but the collar on G.striatum is always distinct giving the impression it is free of the stem

Hope that helps.

Neil.

Afterthought: Just think of the sliding ring on a Macrolepiota procera stem, now imagine the top of the free ring connected to the bottom of the spore sac of G.striatum where it meets the stalk. This is not a perfect description of what the collar looks like, but it's the best I can come up with.

Neil
Would I be right in thinking (as I must be one of the few people without the new Collins) going on that information this

which was confirmed by someone as G pectinatum is probably G striatum

Mal

ManwithNoname · #15 (**permalink**) 08-10-2009, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by flaxton

Neil
Would I be right in thinking (as I must be one of the few people without the new Collins) going on that information this

which was confirmed by someone as G pectinatum is probably G striatum

Mal

It is indeed Geastrum striatum, Mal, as per my text to John after consulting the Kew book.

(I think everyone was struggling to put a firm ID to these - assuming it was one of the ones found under the cedar on the Saturday - without good photos and a decent key.)

FungiJohn · #16 (**permalink**) 08-10-2009, 08:56 PM

Here are a couple of images of the young Earthstars - Geastrum striatum I took on the 5th September 2009. What a difference a month can have!

John

fairplay · #17 (**permalink**) 08-10-2009, 09:04 PM

Hi Mal,
I've just caught up.

Yes, definitely. MwnN has said it all.

Neil.

PS. That's some smashing detailed shots of G.striatum from David.
PPS. That's some smashing detailed shots of G.striatum from John too, this time showing them young before the collar has separated from the base, thus hiding the stalk and leading to possible confusion.

jaybie · #18 (**permalink**) 08-10-2009, 10:52 PM

It's a stick ..

Just to show that I was paying attention here's a couple of photogenic shots of what I have as Angel's Bonnet - Mycena arcangeliana

This is where I find out that I noted them wrong - must get a dictaphone to replace the memory cells

JohnB

flaxton · #19 (**permalink**) 08-10-2009, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ManwithNoname

It is indeed Geastrum striatum, Mal, as per my text to John after consulting the Kew book.

(I think everyone was struggling to put a firm ID to these - assuming it was one of the ones found under the cedar on the Saturday - without good photos and a decent key.)

Thanks. This was one of a few I found just around the corner from home

. Now a quick rename of a few photos.

Mal