Brown pored bolete ID.

[Gerel]

Hi,

I found a group of three of these growing under spruce today. These two were approximately 5cm across the cap and the third was an older, past it, specimen at least twice the size. The closest I can come up with is Porphyrellus porphyrosporus/P. pseudoscaber but there was no discolouration of the flesh on cutting (apart from a slight yellowing in the older example) or a noticeable unpleasant smell.



The cap was distinctly velvety which doesn't really show up in the pictures, except perhaps the shot of the pores.

Help with ID appreciated.

Steve

(I considered B. badius, but even the old specimen had a velvety cap, there was no hint of bluing and the pore colour looks too dark.)

[Chris Yeates]

I would say you're correct with Porphyrellus

quote from the 2005 revised volume of British Fungus Flora I:

"Easily recognized by dull colour of cap, stem and tubes and brown-vinaceous
spore-print; fresh specimens stain the fingers or paper bluish green on collecting."

did you do a spore print?

cheers

Chris

[flaxton]

Seconded.

Mal

[Gerel]

Thanks both,

spore print is "brewing"

Steve

[SheffieldLass]

You got a better response to your thread than I did to mine

A few Boletes

A similarity there I think. Though mine was under oak.

Melanie

[Gerel]

Spore print wasn't hugely succesful, but what there was, was fairly dark brown, (I'm not sure about vinaceous though).

Even after 24 hours the cut surface was still mostly white although it is now streaked with brown.

[flaxton]

Still Porphyrellus
Mal

[Gerel]

Originally Posted by flaxton

Still Porphyrellus
Mal

Not arguing, Chris asked if I'd got a spore print so I thought I'd say what it was.

Incidentally, most places I've checked tag this as rare, is it worth sending a record to V County recorder or am I just out of date again? (same goes for recent Hydnellum concrescens find)

Steve

[Chris Yeates]

Originally Posted by Gerel

Incidentally, most places I've checked tag this as rare, is it worth sending a record to V County recorder or am I just out of date again? (same goes for recent Hydnellum concrescens find)

Steve

see: NBN Gateway: Dusky Bolete (Porphyrellus porphyrosporus) grid map it's interesting that mid-Wales and Yorkshire (of course) seem to be good places for this

seriously though send records of anything to your VC recorder - anything which you are happy about the name of that it is -

many years ago I was co-Recorder for Leeds Birdwatchers' Club and year after year one of the "rarest" species in the area was the Dunnock . . . because no-one bothered recording them!; this has a serious side - it is difficult to convince the powers that be that a particular (rare) fungus deserves protection when it has been recorded more frequently (because it is rare) than its commoner relatives - does that make sense?

Chris

[Gerel]

I see what you're saying Chris, as an amateur, I would be inclined to think that the recorder is unlikely to want to be bothered with the "everyday stuff" ie. I might report a hen harrier, ignore a sparrow, and not submit findings of "ordinary" species which would skew records towards over representing the uncommon.

I'll have to go through all the species of which I'm confident of the identification and submit them en mass.

Probably more relevant here than some other parts of the country as this area seems under reported for just about everything I look at (it's quite unusual for mid-Wales to show as a stronghold for anything other than Kites, Ravens and a few specialist plants just because, comparatively there are so few people looking here).


Steve