Entoloma

flaxton · #1 (**permalink**) 18-09-2009, 10:52 PM

I found this while out a couple of days ago

Hadn't got a clue where to start so it got left until all the others had been done

It produced a pink spore print so a quick look at the spores took me to Entaloma and with that shape to E undatum. Has anyone seen this species before and if so does this look right.

Thanks

Mal

Chris Yeates · #2 (**permalink**) 18-09-2009, 11:58 PM

did it have a zonate cap Mal? can't see from this view . . .

did it have cheilocystidia?

Chris

flaxton · #3 (**permalink**) 19-09-2009, 08:28 AM

Chris
The cap photo was bad

(I am blaming the new camera) but it does show a zonate cap.

After a lot of searching I found one cheilocystidia.

Mal

SheffieldLass · #4 (**permalink**) 19-09-2009, 01:11 PM

If that is a cheilocystidium then that can't be E undatum, though it isn't perhaps a particularly convincing cystidium

Were there clamps? Incrusted pigment in the cap?

BTW I don't have a clue, even though I'm asking the questions, just like to see others tackle / struggle with Entoloma, and maybe learn some new tips

.....

I was flicking through the two Nordeloos Fungi Europaea volumes on Entoloma yesterday, borrowed from a friend, and, well I think I've probably walked past rather a lot of Entoloma and not even realised that was what they were. They are certainly a very diverse looking group.

Melanie

flaxton · #5 (**permalink**) 19-09-2009, 08:16 PM

Melanie
In FOS is says there are occasional marginal cells which look like the ones I found

but F Nordica says no Cheilocystidia. I will check for clamps and encrustation in the pp.

Mal

SheffieldLass · #6 (**permalink**) 19-09-2009, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by flaxton

Melanie
In FOS is says there are occasional marginal cells which look like the ones I found

but F Nordica says no Cheilocystidia. I will check for clamps and encrustation in the pp.

Mal

Nordeloos' Fungi Europaea and FAN1 also mention the occasional marginal cylindrical 'hairs' for E undatum. If the other characters fit then you could be on the right track .... There are a few picture links on the Polish Website, which look like yours Index of fungi pages or photographs on The Net - E-G - grzyby.pl

Except for E conferendum, (which I do like (and also hate) because you know it is one once you see the spores), I do the cheilocystidia, clamps and pigment type search as a matter of course ... though usually I'm still left scratching my head even when I've got that info. So good luck!

Melanie