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14-09-2009, 04:14 PM
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| | Cellar Cup Mystery In my cellar, the cellar cup (Peziza cerea) always fruits in September. can enyone sugest how it knows it's autumn?
It is always dark (unless I briefly turn the light on)
The temperature is pretty constant
The humidity is pretty constant
The cellar floor can flood any time of year including the summer
Peter
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14-09-2009, 05:50 PM
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| | | Re: Cellar Cup Mystery Hi Peter,
an enchanting place to search fungi, isn't it?
How do you know this is P. cerea?
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14-09-2009, 07:31 PM
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| | | Re: Cellar Cup Mystery Hi Martin
from you question I suspect you think it may be another species. I will go down the cellar, get a sample and check with my microscope and let you know
Peter
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14-09-2009, 08:07 PM
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| | Re: Cellar Cup Mystery I had previously checked out another specimen from my cellar about 5 years ago but have now re checked and todays specimen has:
Ascus tips blued in Melzers
Paraphyses simple without inflated cells
Spores elipsoid smooth 14.5 x 8.7 (I only measured one but that was enough)
Middle layer of interwoven cells thin
Brian Spooners key Field Mycology Vol 2 (2) p52 Keys the specimen out to P.cerea, apparently they can have a stem.
The colour in the previous photo has come out a bit to yellow due to the florescent light in the cellar and the long exposure to take the shot.
Peter
Peter
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14-09-2009, 09:15 PM
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| | | Re: Cellar Cup Mystery Hi Peter,
I must confess I went out on a limb (do say so?) while challenging P. cerea
Your micro shows an operculate asco for sure. But colour and stipe makes me wonder.
All the specimen of cerea I have seen in books and in the web look different to yours. But maybe this is due to this special habitat close to a Workmate WM700
Cheers,
Martin | 
14-09-2009, 09:38 PM
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| | | Re: Cellar Cup Mystery Quote:
Originally Posted by Beamish But maybe this is due to this special habitat close to a Workmate WM700  | Does its presence make you nervous then? (The Workmate, not the fungus!  ) Brings to mind all those jobs you've been promising Mrs Beamish you'll get round to doing one day!  
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14-09-2009, 09:48 PM
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| | | Re: Cellar Cup Mystery caught... | 
15-09-2009, 09:43 AM
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| | | Re: Cellar Cup Mystery Quote:
Originally Posted by Ditiola
Brian Spooners key Field Mycology Vol 2 (2) p52 Keys the specimen out to P.cerea, apparently they can have a stem.
The colour in the previous photo has come out a bit to yellow due to the florescent light in the cellar and the long exposure to take the shot. | Hi Peter,
it was the colour that made me wonder. All the specimen I saw in my sources were brownish. But now I found bright yellow ones on Boudier's plates (old name Aleuria cerea). They have a small stem there, too.
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