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02-09-2009, 07:41 PM
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| | | ID help for some Fungi please. I think this is the first time I've posted in the Fungi Forum, so please be gentle with me.  Firstly, I'm a complete novice when it comes to fungi, apart from really obvious things like Ceps and Chanterelles, I haven't really got to grips with the different genera as yet.
Anyway, I had a walk around Loch an Eilein and Loch Gamhna near Aviemore today and I found a few fungi that I'd appreciate some help with. The habitat is mixed woodland with Blaeberry and Heather undergrowth.
The fungi in the first two pictures were both growing on a stump of what I'm pretty sure was an Old Scots Pine tree. Is the first one a Mycena sp, they were no more than 20-25 mm tall.
The 2nd one was much larger is it Dyer's Mazegill?
The 3rd one didn't appear to be growing on any wood or substrate.
The 4th one was growing on a stump, which looked like Birch.
The 5th one was growing on a stump, I'm not sure what the tree was, but I don't think it was a conifer, I think the Fungi is Turkeytail.
The 6th and final photo seems to be 2 different fungi, one of which is quite small and seems to be growing on the other, larger red one.
Any confirmations or corrections will be greatly appreciated. | 
02-09-2009, 07:54 PM
|  | Knight Commander of the Wild Empire | | Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Red Rose County
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| | | Re: ID help for some Fungi please. Novice opinion here
Agree with 1 & 2, (1 might be Mycena inclinata), think 3 might be the beginnings of Larch Bolete Suillus grevillei, 4 is Lycogala epidendrum, Agree with 5 (although I keep mis-identifying Bjekandera adusta's as Trametes versicolor  ), and 6 is strawberry & coconut tart.  (no idea).
Regards,
Mike | 
02-09-2009, 08:05 PM
|  | Commander of the Wild Empire | | Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Aviemore
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| | | Re: ID help for some Fungi please. Thanks for those, it's nice to know I got some right.
That last one was tricky to see clearly never mind photograph. It was at a very narrow section of path with trees and heather growing in such a way I'd have had to lie flat along the path to get a better shot. I didn't fancy doing that as I've got a dodgy knee at the moment and might not have been able to get back up.  Plus it was a bit damp. | 
02-09-2009, 08:08 PM
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| | | Re: ID help for some Fungi please. try Hydnellum ferrugineum for your last one, | 
02-09-2009, 08:14 PM
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| | | Re: ID help for some Fungi please. Hydnellum peckii a synonym of H. ferrugineum? | 
02-09-2009, 08:46 PM
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| | | Re: ID help for some Fungi please. Just wondering about the ID of dyers mazegill for no. 2. The description I have for this fungus (and the ones I've seen) are fully rounded fungi with a central stem. The specimen in this pic seems much more a true bracket emerging shelflike from the stump. Perhaps it appears at times in both conformations?
However, from my limited resources I can't offer an alternative ID.
Also, like others, I am not suggesting a Latin name for d. m. to avoid the risk of repeat conflagration from another thread concerning the same species.
- Jim | 
02-09-2009, 09:21 PM
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| | | Re: ID help for some Fungi please. Without fear of bursting into flames, I concur with Phaeolus schweinitzii - Dyer's Mazegill for No.2:
" Fruiting body with irregularly turbinate to plate-shaped (on trunks +/- bracketlike) pileus and +/- distinct, unusally short stipe. Pileus 80-300 x 10-40mm, often up to several concrescent......." Reference FOS.
A quick look at http://www.wildabouttheworld.com/for....html#post9277 will confirm Jim's assumption that the species can appear in several forms during its development more or less depending on the nature of the substrate (stump/trunk or buried wood/root).
David
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02-09-2009, 10:07 PM
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| | | Re: ID help for some Fungi please. Your first is indeed a Mycena but I think that it more likely to be M. stipata or M silvae-nigrae both of which are relatively common in Scotland (rather than M. inclinata).
These two are a splitting of the old M alcalina.
Mal | 
03-09-2009, 08:45 AM
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| | | Re: ID help for some Fungi please. Thanks for those suggestions, they have really helped me.
Re number 1, the two books I have show M. inclinata as growing on Oak, this was almost certainly an Old Scots Pine stump, so I think it's probably not that. Both my books still show M. alcalina rather than M. stipata or M silvae-nigrae, but from reading about M. alcalina, one or the other seems very likely.
I read the other thread on the Dyer's Mazegill, it's amazing how different a fungus can look at different stages of development, something for me to bear in mind.
Re number 6, Hydnellum peckii certainly looks likely from my reading and also from other pictures I've seen on Google images. I wouldn't use Google images alone as a definitive ID, I've seen a few mistakes on it, but in conjunction with other resources it can be a useful tool.
From my reading Hydnellum peckii would appear to be on the Red Data list, do fungi have Vice-county recorders like Moths? Or is there another society or organisation who would accept reports? Otherwise I was thinking of sending a photo and grid ref to the Highland Mycological Society.
Once again, thanks for everybody's help.
Regards, Audrey. | 
03-09-2009, 02:17 PM
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| | | Re: ID help for some Fungi please. Quote:
Originally Posted by NickCantle Hydnellum peckii a synonym of H. ferrugineum? | Not according to the Checklist:
" Hydnellum ferrugineum (Fr.) P. Karst., Meddn Soc. Fauna Flora fenn. 5: 41 (1880)
Hydnum ferrugineum Fr., Observ. mycol. (Leipzig) 1: 133 (1815)
Calodon ferrugineus (Fr.) P. Karst., Revue mycol. Toulouse 3(no. 9): 20 (1881)
Phaeodon ferrugineus (Fr.) J. Schröt., in Cohn, Krypt.-Fl. Schlesien Pilze (Breslau) 3: 459 (1888)
Habitat: On sandy soil under Pinus sylvestris or Picea spp.
Notes: Rarely reported but apparently widespread.
Conservation Status: Endangered (Red Data List, ed. 1); Near Threatened (Red Data List, ed. 2); BAP species; Biodiversity Action Plan"
and,
" Hydnellum peckii Banker, in Peck, Bull. N.Y. St. Mus. 157: 28 (1912)
Hydnellum diabolus Banker, Mycologia 5: 194 (1913)
Hydnum diabolus (Banker) Trotter, Syll. fung. (Abellini) 23: 470 (1925)
Hydnum peckii (Banker) Trotter, Syll. fung. (Abellini) 23: 470 (1925)
Habitat: With Pinus sylvestris in Caledonian pinewoods.
Notes: Occasional to locally abundant in Caledonian pinewoods.
Conservation Status: Endangered (Red Data List, ed. 1); Annex (Red Data List, ed. 2); BAP species; Biodiversity Action Plan"
FOS says that the former species "has long been misunderstood and confused with other Hydnellum species, principally with H. peckii", of which it also says the identification "is no problem if one takes a taste test: The flesh of this fungus is burning sharp"
Andreas, in Black's, says "Many variants (of H. peckii ) are usually found growing together in the same location. Almost all of them are seriously endangered in most European countries"
If identification can be confirmed it would be worth notifying the ABFG, or the BMS, both of which have national databases.
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