Amanita and Lactarius queries

Gerel · #1 (**permalink**) 31-08-2009, 10:26 PM

Hi all,

First one found yesterday on a field margin near various broadleaves, which I think is a soggy, slug-eaten Tawny grisette, Amanita fulva,

Secondly, earlier today I found a solitary large milkcap, approx 150mm across cap and 100mm tall, stipe sturdy, cylindrical approx 40mm diameter. All white (cap, flesh, gills and stipe) yellowing where damaged. No particular smell. Milk - white, unchanging on exposure to air. I tasted the milk, there was no noticeable taste but it made the tip of my tongue tingle and go slightly numb, like a mild local anaesthetic. No picture I'm afraid, maybe tomorrow, but any suggestions as to where to start looking for an ID.

It was growing by the edge of a stream in a oak grove.

Cheers

Steve

NickCantle · #2 (**permalink**) 31-08-2009, 10:36 PM

I reckon your Amanita is Amanita vaginata due to the lack of colour that's usually show in A. fulva.

Gerel · #3 (**permalink**) 31-08-2009, 10:58 PM

Hi Nick,

I was going by the pictures in my aged copy of Phillips which shows A. vaginata much darker than fulva, however looking at the cap edge in the second pic it does look lined rather than grooved.

As you can probably tell it was not the best weather for taking pictures (par for the course in Wales this "summer") so I didn't spend as much time over them as normal. There was one fruitbody in this spot last year and just one this year too, so I didn't want to pick it for better shots as it gives the impression of barely hanging on there.

Cheers

Steve

Gerel · #4 (**permalink**) 01-09-2009, 12:00 AM

I am now thinking possibly L. vallereus for the milkcap, I will try to collect it tomorrow/today for a closer look.

Gerel · #5 (**permalink**) 03-09-2009, 04:59 PM

Some shots of the milkcap in question.

Steve

NickCantle · #6 (**permalink**) 03-09-2009, 05:32 PM

If it didn't milk, I'd say Russula delica, but it does, so there goes that plan

Gerel · #7 (**permalink**) 07-09-2009, 07:29 PM

Does look like R. delica but I'm afraid there definately was milk

I had another look at what the slugs have left of it and the cap is quite smooth on top which makes my original guess seem unlikely. Think this is going to have to stay a Lactarius sp.

Steve