went on another walk today...

[thebeard]

to another graveyard, saw quite a few species, but again there's a couple i'd like some help for id/confirmation with! best get going...

number 1 - is what i think is a Clitocybe, possibly C. dealbata


number 2 - unfortunately the photos came out quite poor. not too sure on this at all, i can't quite remember, but think it was growing under a coniferous tree


number 3 - seems familiar, but i couldnt really find it in any of my books, i need to get a better field guide really


saw some very nice specimens of Ganoderma applanatus as well as some glistening inkcaps Coprinus micaceus growing on a tree stump. not a bad day in all

[cowshill]

If, as I think I see in the pic of no.2, the broken stem is stained pink and the gills are pink, then I would say it is agaricus silvaticus. Gills would be pink when young, gradually changing to dark brown. All parts would stain pinkish red on bruising, and it would be very nice eating!

[thebeard]

i did think it was, though as you may see from a previous thread i posted, i saw some of the same species (which where much darker), a week ago, though they do vary quite a lot in appearance. the markings on the cap, along with the 'typical' agaric characterstics and the prominent ring do point to A. silvaticus though

[Chris Yeates]

Originally Posted by cowshill

If, as I think I see in the pic of no.2, the broken stem is stained pink and the gills are pink, then I would say it is agaricus silvaticus. Gills would be pink when young, gradually changing to dark brown. All parts would stain pinkish red on bruising, and it would be very nice eating!

gills pink when young, gradually changing to dark brown holds true for most (all?) of the 240+ (yes that many!) Agaricus species recorded for Britain and Ireland . . .

a lot of those discolour pink / red . . . it's a very difficult genus (I wouldn't touch it with a bargepole, but armed with just Phillips and Jordan it's probably quite easy)

Chris

[cowshill]

Originally Posted by Chris Yeates

gills pink when young, gradually changing to dark brown holds true for most (all?) of the 240+

Apologies for wasting space stating the supremely obvious! A fault to which most of us occasionally fall victim.

Originally Posted by Chris Yeates

a lot of those discolour pink / red . . . it's a very difficult genus (I wouldn't touch it with a bargepole, but armed with just Phillips and Jordan it's probably quite easy)

I still avoid consuming yellow staining agaricus, as I haven't examined nearly enough specimens to feel confident of avoiding xanthodermus, but (despite, or perhaps because of, my somewhat rudimentary knowledge of the fungi) I had been under the impression that spotty-mottled, pink-staining, in-the-woods-growing agarici(pl?) were safe to eat. Not sure if you're saying you know of specific members of the genus where this is not the case or you're saying that with 240+ members we're not sure that every last pinky-woodsy-mottly one is okay.

- Jim

[NickCantle]

Originally Posted by cowshill

I still avoid consuming yellow staining agaricus, as I haven't examined nearly enough specimens to feel confident of avoiding xanthodermus, but (despite, or perhaps because of, my somewhat rudimentary knowledge of the fungi) I had been under the impression that spotty-mottled, pink-staining, in-the-woods-growing agarici(pl?) were safe to eat. Not sure if you're saying you know of specific members of the genus where this is not the case or you're saying that with 240+ members we're not sure that every last pinky-woodsy-mottly one is okay.

You will know if you have A. xanthodermus- if you smell it, it's quite offputting. As far as I am aware, no edible Agaricus smells like ink/iodine.

...by the way, sometimes A. moelleri can be pink and mottly, but smelling it will tell you to steer clear.

[cowshill]

Originally Posted by NickCantle

You will know if you have A. xanthodermus- if you smell it, it's quite offputting. As far as I am aware, no edible Agaricus smells like ink/iodine.

I think I have a congenitally poor sense of smell. Some mushrooms smell "mushroomy" to me, but I have yet to come upon any where I felt as though the aroma gave me any clue to their identity.

- Jim

[NickCantle]

Originally Posted by cowshill

I think I have a congenitally poor sense of smell. Some mushrooms smell "mushroomy" to me, but I have yet to come upon any where I felt as though the aroma gave me any clue to their identity.

- Jim

Oh fair enough Jim- though even a weak sense of smell would detect a fresh A. xanthodermus/A. moelleri I reckon

[flaxton]

Originally Posted by Chris Yeates

a lot of those discolour pink / red . . . it's a very difficult genus (I wouldn't touch it with a bargepole, but armed with just Phillips and Jordan it's probably quite easy)

Chris

i don't think Chris is talking about eating them(I might be wrong) I think he is just talking about the difficulty in identifying of them.

Mal

[NickCantle]

Originally Posted by flaxton

i don't think Chris is talking about eating them(I might be wrong) I think he is just talking about the difficulty in identifying of them.

Mal

I thought that was obvious