bolete help!

[diggleken]

Which one is this small chap?
About 2'' cap size, height the same, not seeming to get much bigger - is it a cep, edulis?
Just a mushroomy smell, quite a few sort of distantly trooping, dry cap, not glistening so maybe not cep. near a river, but under beech and in a dryish spot. whiteish veins on stem, white firm flesh throughout
Cheers
Ken.

And a late st georges at the same spot just to enjoy - all in all a meal fit for a prince!

[treecreeper]

I'm sure that's boletus edulis (confirmed by whitish veins). From the photo you can see why it's called 'penny bun'

[diggleken]

thanks a lot tc, I had it as cep/penny bun, but wanted to be sure.
The dry cap put me off, but Jordan does say it can be both dry and glistening ...........so I was unsure.
Great stuff,
Cheers
Ken

[mollisia]

Hello,

your St. Georgs Mushroom is something else. The gills are far too distant. May be it is young Clitopilus prunulus, which likes to grow in the vicinity of Boletus edulis. May be it is something else, a Lepista or a Clitocybe.

best regards,
Andreas

[diggleken]

Hi Andreas,
I know I'm a mere amateur, butI still think this is st georges - this was so like st georges from earlier in the year , when no penny buns are about, plus it had that lovely fresh mushroom soup smell they have - but maybe all my st georges have been wrong ...................!
On the other hand, it does have a hollow stem..........mmmmhhh!
Cheers
Ken

[flaxton]

St Georges and Clitopilus prunulus have the same smell but they are both edible.

Mal

[diggleken]

Thanks Mal - if it is the Miller, should develop and be obvious then, so I'll keep an eye on them!
And the same for Andreas' other suggestions...........still not convinced though, but trying not to be stubborn - it doesnt pay in fungi ID does it!
(or anything else come to think of it)
Cheers
Ken

[ManwithNoname]

Originally Posted by diggleken

Thanks Mal - if it is the Miller, should develop and be obvious then, so I'll keep an eye on them!
And the same for Andreas' other suggestions...........still not convinced though, but trying not to be stubborn - it doesnt pay in fungi ID does it!
(or anything else come to think of it)
Cheers
Ken

It just goes to show how easily you can make a serious error if you aren't familiar with all the important features of a species. It's no wonder people end up poisoning themselves.

As Andreas says, the gills just are not right for Calocybe gambosa. In fact the whole jizz of the mushrooms is not right for this species. I'd go along with Adreas's suggestion of Clitopilus prunulus being a strong contender.

[ManwithNoname]

Originally Posted by ManwithNoname

I'd go along with Adreas's suggestion of Clitopilus prunulus being a strong contender.

... but I'd want to have had a look at the spores before risking eating any! Don't want to get confused with those toxic Clitocybe species.

[woodlandwarrior]

Hi

Still no expert but agree with Andreas - don't think they're St Georges. Check out these images I took of some St Georges mushrooms back in April. Gills on my pics seem closer together and the caps slightly indented.

Hope these help

Mark