Mushroom ID help

lenny · #1 (**permalink**) 22-07-2009, 03:20 PM

hi i would like to know if anyone could please tell me what species/type of mushroom this is it popped up in my garden recently. i live in northern ireland if that helps:

heres also one i picked a day ago to get a closer look:

many thanks lenny

NickCantle · #2 (**permalink**) 22-07-2009, 03:28 PM

Panaeolina foenisecii could be a possibility.

lenny · #3 (**permalink**) 22-07-2009, 03:34 PM

ok il do a bit of reasearch to make sure thanks

Chris Yeates · #4 (**permalink**) 22-07-2009, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by lenny

ok il do a bit of reasearch to make sure thanks

hi Lenny

the best way to 'make sure' is to check whether the spores are ornamented I'm afraid . . . . .

superficially several Panaeolus/Panaeolina species can look like this

Nick is spot on with his suggestion, but as he says it remains a 'possibility' only

cheers

Chris

lenny · #5 (**permalink**) 22-07-2009, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Yeates

hi Lenny

the best way to 'make sure' is to check whether the spores are ornamented I'm afraid . . . . .

superficially several Panaeolus/Panaeolina species can look like this

Nick is spot on with his suggestion, but as he says it remains a 'possibility' only

cheers

Chris

hi chris thanks for youre help

im sorry but you couldnt maybe clarify what you mean by ornamented ?

bit of an amatuer in the mushroom world!

if it was either Panaeolus/Panaeolina would they be edible i saw a big clump in the corner of the garden earlier?

thanks lenny

NickCantle · #6 (**permalink**) 22-07-2009, 10:53 PM

Forget any questions of edibility in this case Lenny

lenny · #7 (**permalink**) 22-07-2009, 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by NickCantle

Forget any questions of edibility in this case Lenny

ok i will do

i just cut the cap off to do a spore print should hopefully give me a better idea

Chris Yeates · #8 (**permalink**) 22-07-2009, 11:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lenny

ok i will do

i just cut the cap off to do a spore print should hopefully give me a better idea

if you do a spore print and have a microscope and if you see spores looking like this:
http://bornnaturalist.org/images/20071002/14.jpg

then you have foenisecii (poor photograph, mind - I must get some images of my own, but those are 'ornamented' spores) - if you don't have a microscope, PM me -
I would be happy to look at the spore print for you

cheers

Chris

and Nick is right - don't think of eating these!