Possible Hygrophorous

[watsthat]

Summers here and at last I`m picking up one or two interesting looking fungi!

I have limited time due to other commitments but I like to think I`m making progress with mushrooms. I classify fungi broadly as; 1. Identifiable by me (a small category), 2. Identifiable with assistance (a large category but hopefully shrinking) and 3. Un-identifiable even with assistance (an incredibly large category). In order to use my time as efficiently as possible and not waste other peoples time, I tend to ignore category 3 and to concentrate on category 2.

However; heres one from this weekend I would like help with if possible. A small white agaric, white stem, white well spaced gills, (which I think are slightly decurrent). It was growing in a meadow, grazed regularly by cattle, not far from a hawthorn hedge. The nearest I can get is Hygrophorous but I`m not confident, anyone got any ideas?

Cheers

Pete

[kiltoncomp]

Originally Posted by watsthat

Summers here and at last I`m picking up one or two interesting looking fungi!

I have limited time due to other commitments but I like to think I`m making progress with mushrooms. I classify fungi broadly as; 1. Identifiable by me (a small category), 2. Identifiable with assistance (a large category but hopefully shrinking) and 3. Un-identifiable even with assistance (an incredibly large category). In order to use my time as efficiently as possible and not waste other peoples time, I tend to ignore category 3 and to concentrate on category 2.

However; heres one from this weekend I would like help with if possible. A small white agaric, white stem, white well spaced gills, (which I think are slightly decurrent). It was growing in a meadow, grazed regularly by cattle, not far from a hawthorn hedge. The nearest I can get is Hygrophorous but I`m not confident, anyone got any ideas?

Cheers

Pete

probably way off the mark, but it has the look of an Agrocybe sp to me,
you need Chris and Melanie on the case with this one

Brian.

[Chris Yeates]

hi

definitely not a Hygrophorus sensu stricto;or indeed one of the genera formerly included under the name - like Hygrocybe and Camarophyllus - because it clearly has a veil, and those last two don't

as to what it is I have less comment to make; there appears to be a pinkish brown (spore?) deposit on one part of the velar remants though . . .

among the many useful comments I carry with me from participation on BMS forays is one which went "one fungus is not a fungus"* meaning of course that you really need several specimens, preferably at different stages of development; it also allows at least one of the specimens to be effectively destroyed as the poor thing undergoes getting a spore print, scalping, sectioning, staining, squashing and the like, while allowing for others to be dried for the herbarium if they prove to be something unusual or worth sending to an expert

I would like to see a spore print (and indeed spores - he said, asking the impossible!) before going much further; there may be people who are able to name this from what we can see here, but I'm afraid I'm not one of them - despite Brian's ill-placed confidence

* and yes, I fully appreciate that far too often a single fruitbody is what we are presented with!

cheers

Chris

[watsthat]

Originally Posted by Chris Yeates

hi

definitely not a Hygrophorus sensu stricto;or indeed one of the genera formerly included under the name - like Hygrocybe and Camarophyllus - because it clearly has a veil, and those last two don't

as to what it is I have less comment to make; there appears to be a pinkish brown (spore?) deposit on one part of the velar remants though . . .

among the many useful comments I carry with me from participation on BMS forays is one which went "one fungus is not a fungus"* meaning of course that you really need several specimens, preferably at different stages of development; it also allows at least one of the specimens to be effectively destroyed as the poor thing undergoes getting a spore print, scalping, sectioning, staining, squashing and the like, while allowing for others to be dried for the herbarium if they prove to be something unusual or worth sending to an expert

I would like to see a spore print (and indeed spores - he said, asking the impossible!) before going much further; there may be people who are able to name this from what we can see here, but I'm afraid I'm not one of them - despite Brian's ill-placed confidence

* and yes, I fully appreciate that far too often a single fruitbody is what we are presented with!

cheers

Chris

Thanks Chris, its looking like a Cat 3 then

Pete

[SheffieldLass]

Originally Posted by kiltoncomp

probably way off the mark, but it has the look of an Agrocybe sp to me,
you need Chris and Melanie on the case with this one

Brian.

It looks very thin fleshed to me, translucent and very delicate, though it may be just a trick of the light. The Agrocybes I have been finding in the last few days are quite robust and the flesh opaque.

Melanie

Actually it is rather like the moth that has turned up as a link ....

[Alantb]

How about a volvariella that lost its volva ? (and daren't tell its mum....) Did it smell of anything? There are some white tricholomas that look a bit like this in pictures - he said making himself sound even sillier than usual - but the apparently pinkish spores or gills??? Is the stipe hollow? These and other questions .....
Cheers, (back from Guyana) Alan

[FungiJohn]

It does look very fragile and washed out. The hanging partial veil remnants on the margins may possibly suggest Psathyrella ... candolleana maybe.

One for over the shoulder

John

[mollisia]

Hello,

Originally Posted by FungiJohn

It does look very fragile and washed out. The hanging partial veil remnants on the margins may possibly suggest Psathyrella ... candolleana maybe.

I second that!

One for over the shoulder

That too!

best regards,
Andreas

[watsthat]

Thankyou everyone and yes Melanie, it was quite delicate but nowhere near the delicacy of say a Hygrocybe. Its a shame really, I had great hopes for this one but notwithstanding the colour, its going over the shoulder with the other LBJ`s into category 3!
Psathyrella candolleana? I`m going to think about that one.

Cheers

Pete