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02-04-2009, 02:03 PM
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| | | Bisporella, Orbilia or something else
Hello all
On a foray with Les we came across this tiny disco on a dead Scots pine branch, below the bark. The fruit bodies were approx 0.5 to 2 mm dia.
First thoughts were of Bisporella sp (citrina) but I'm quite sure it isn't.
As usual I didn't take a sample back home   
Any comments much appreciated
John & Les |
02-04-2009, 02:43 PM
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| | | Re: Bisporella, Orbilia or something else
I remember finding similar on pine while foraging with knowledgable people
last year, and Orbilia.sp, there is apparently rather a lot of them so it's kew
for a diffinative. 
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02-04-2009, 03:17 PM
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| | | Re: Bisporella, Orbilia or something else
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Originally Posted by CapAndBracket  I remember finding similar on pine while foraging with knowledgable people
last year, and Orbilia.sp, there is apparently rather a lot of them so it's kew
for a diffinative.
Cheers J.P. | I'm steered towards the genus Orbilia JP but as you rightly say, it's a large genus and not an easy one at that!
It's probably a good thing that I forgot to bring back a sample ... next time perhaps  
John |
02-04-2009, 07:27 PM
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| | | Re: Bisporella, Orbilia or something else
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Originally Posted by FungiJohn I'm steered towards the genus Orbilia JP but as you rightly say, it's a large genus and not an easy one at that!
It's probably a good thing that I forgot to bring back a sample ... next time perhaps
John | hi John
I think this is close to something JP posted on the " fungi on sycamore" thread and Andreas commented "it is a Hyalorbilia from the inflatula-group (earlier known as Orbilia auricolor s.l.). Exact species can only be determined with microscope and the key of Zotto Baral."
check out Stip Helleman's excellent Helotiales website . . . . 'Orbiliomycetes' (a new class of asco's, based on differences of structure) are at Images of Orbiliomycetes (Ascomycetes)
cheers
Chris
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02-04-2009, 08:33 PM
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| | | Re: Bisporella, Orbilia or something else
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Originally Posted by Chris Yeates hi John
I think this is close to something JP posted on the " fungi on sycamore" thread and Andreas commented "it is a Hyalorbilia from the inflatula-group (earlier known as Orbilia auricolor s.l.). Exact species can only be determined with microscope and the key of Zotto Baral."
check out Stip Helleman's excellent Helotiales website . . . . 'Orbiliomycetes' (a new class of asco's, based on differences of structure) are at Images of Orbiliomycetes (Ascomycetes)
cheers
Chris | Hi Chris
Many thanks for this. A very useful link too!
If I get the chance to find more I'll do a proper job. I was quite surprised to discover just how many existed and how many more not yet recorded!
John
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02-04-2009, 08:58 PM
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| | | Re: Bisporella, Orbilia or something else
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Originally Posted by FungiJohn Hi Chris
Many thanks for this. A very useful link too!
If I get the chance to find more I'll do a proper job. I was quite surprised to discover just how many existed and how many more not yet recorded!
John | Totally agree, these disco's seem to be profilerating in species number daily,
one thing for sure is that i wouldn't have so much idea without WAB, now
how do i memorise all these fungi keys 
Cheers J.P.
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02-04-2009, 09:14 PM
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| | | Re: Bisporella, Orbilia or something else
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Originally Posted by CapAndBracket Totally agree, these disco's seem to be profilerating in species number daily,
one thing for sure is that i wouldn't have so much idea without WAB, now
how do i memorise all these fungi keys
Cheers J.P. | You don't JP ... You just have to remember where you left your keys and of course we still have WAB to fall back on when the key doesn't seem to fit
If that fails we ship them off to Kew 
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02-04-2009, 10:58 PM
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| | | Re: Bisporella, Orbilia or something else
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Originally Posted by FungiJohn
If that fails we ship them off to Kew
John | but for how much longer?
Chris
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03-04-2009, 10:32 PM
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| | | Re: Bisporella, Orbilia or something else
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Originally Posted by Chris Yeates but for how much longer?
Chris | You'll be pleased to know that there are 2 NERC funded MSc courses (one linked to Kew, the other Edinburgh) to to train up new taxonomists, maybe there will be a few budding, or better still, experienced mycologists amongst the intake.
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| | | Re: Bisporella, Orbilia or something else
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Originally Posted by sheffieldlass you'll be pleased to know that there are 2 nerc funded msc courses (one linked to kew, the other edinburgh) to to train up new taxonomists, maybe there will be a few budding, or better still, experienced mycologists amongst the intake.
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