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02-02-2009, 05:38 PM
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| | | Looks like a Coprinus sp but is it? The ovoid shape of the fruiting body in this pic, from last summer, strongly suggests Coprinus to me. However; upon looking at the gills I`m not so sure. I would have expected to see some blackening at the gills. Anyone got any ideas?
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02-02-2009, 05:59 PM
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| | | Re: Looks like a Coprinus sp but is it? hi
not a Coprinus, but it could be a Bolbitius which has lost its egg-yolk; or possibly a Conocybe; there is an interesting fungus called Conocybe lactea which has a cap that often doesn't quite open 'properly' it looks a little bit like yours and is interesting as it is probably on the way to becoming one of those fungi (like 'truffles' of various sorts, earthballs etc.) which have developed other ways of shedding their spores but are still related to discomycetes or gilled species
see http://www.rogersmushrooms.com/galle...k~bid~5839.asp (left hand specimens) for an example of this
I bet Andreas has a pertinent suggestion
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02-02-2009, 08:12 PM
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| | | Re: Looks like a Coprinus sp but is it? Hallo,
nothing to add to Chris proposal. I would very much opt for Conocybe lactea, which by the way has changed its name twice in the last few years. It's just that (with big grumbling) I got used to Conocybe albipes (Otth) Hausknecht, that it should now be called again somehow else. I have forgotten how.
The right hand plate of Rogers site, that Chris linked above, is in my eyes no Conocybe lactea.
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02-02-2009, 08:24 PM
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| | | Re: Looks like a Coprinus sp but is it? Unusual to find only one or very few fruit bodies of this species. I think I would suggest Bolbitus titubans
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02-02-2009, 08:39 PM
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| | | Re: Looks like a Coprinus sp but is it? I would too suggest B. titubans- upon closer inspection of the image, you can see the delicate and slightly fleecy stipe below the cap, which is typically shaped like suggested species. | 
02-02-2009, 08:41 PM
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| | | Re: Looks like a Coprinus sp but is it? Quote:
Originally Posted by NickCantle I would too suggest B. titubans- upon closer inspection of the image, you can see the delicate and slightly fleecy stipe below the cap, which is typically shaped like suggested species. | and the stipe feels sticky too Nick  | 
02-02-2009, 08:49 PM
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| | | Re: Looks like a Coprinus sp but is it? Quote:
Originally Posted by NickCantle I would too suggest B. titubans- upon closer inspection of the image, you can see the delicate and slightly fleecy stipe below the cap, which is typically shaped like suggested species. | Hi Nick,
I don't see that there is a difference between the stipe characters of Bolbitius vitellinus (o.k., titubans if it must be ...) and Conocybe lactea/albipes. Both a lang, cylindrical, very fragile, hollow and pruinose. May be vitellinus/titubans is a bit more flocoose then lactea/albipes, but can one see that on the foto? I can hardly believe.
I see that it is 2:1 for the Bolbitius now, as Chris didn't made up his mind, but I still stick to Conocybe lactea, because it is the only species in this genera which has a cap taler then braos when it is mature. And it is mature, as you see from the gills colour.
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02-02-2009, 10:50 PM
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| | | Re: Looks like a Coprinus sp but is it? I wouldn't like to make a call between those two suggestions, though I do lean more towards Conocybe lactea, given what we can see of it ..
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02-02-2009, 11:11 PM
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| | | Re: Looks like a Coprinus sp but is it? Quote:
Originally Posted by mollisia
The right hand plate of Rogers site, that Chris linked above, is in my eyes no Conocybe lactea.
best regards,
Andreas | I tend to agree Andreas - I am not sure that the WAB image which
links to Conocybe lactea is correct either . . . (though this seems to be little more than a thumbnail - or is that my computer?)
in all honesty my first thought was the Conocybe - but posting the first response (and I lay no great claim to being an agaricologist - I'm happier with smaller stuff) I felt I needed to qualify it with another possibility B. titubans should surely have free gills and I'm not convinced I see that here . . . also do we know whether this was growing solitarily? and is that a useful character for a grassland species?
another example where collecting the specimen and drying it can mean that you have a voucher to be checked in future
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Chris
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02-02-2009, 11:43 PM
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| | | Re: Looks like a Coprinus sp but is it? Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris Yeates I tend to agree Andreas - I am not sure that the WAB image which
links to Conocybe lactea is correct either . . . (though this seems to be little more than a thumbnail - or is that my computer?)
in all honesty my first thought was the Conocybe - but posting the first response (and I lay no great claim to being an agaricologist - I'm happier with smaller stuff) I felt I needed to qualify it with another possibility B. titubans should surely have free gills and I'm not convinced I see that here . . . also do we know whether this was growing solitarily? and is that a useful character for a grassland species?
another example where collecting the specimen and drying it can mean that you have a voucher to be checked in future
cheers
Chris | I think that may have been one of my images  Here is one a little better .. I hope!
PS I may change my vote
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